How can a Gay person join the Republican Party?

Sorry, I just don't get it.

Yes, a person should never be defined by thier sexuality, but the Repugs have no regard for the gay community at all. How can you support a group that given the choice, would do away with you?

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just for ignorant people (of all types)

He said that there was more to him than his sexual preference and that his core beliefs were more closely mirrored by the pubs. I just shook my head.

Jews for Hitler :)

Seriously, I knew a guy as an undergrad (in the late '70s\early '80s) who became a fundamentalist Christian. At one point when I was slowly starting to distance myself from him and his kookiness, he told me that he thought all homosexuals should be gathered up and burned to death! He subsequently claimed he had only been joking, but there was a serious undercurrent to his joke. Ever since then, I have thought back on this whenever I am tempted to feel charitable toward fundamentalist or evangelical Christians and decided that they really are a nativist fascist breed, insusceptible to rational discourse.

It makes no sense at all to me. How can you support a party when they'd just as soon stick you in a Concentration Camp and gas you?

If you want to make changes to the party, that would need to be done from outside the party, not within. There would never be enough support from within the party.

I don't understand it at all, one of the great mysteries of all time.

That should get you in...

It was confusing.

I really have no idea. I was pondering this with a friend over this past weekend and we're stumped. I guess if you're fiscally conservative you could be tricked into joining the repub party 20 years ago but even that doesn't apply today. My guess is that some of them want to be accepted by the community that shuns them. :shrug:

I think they call themselves "Log Cabin Republicans", whatever that means.

...they themselves will get to be among the last ones to be done away with? While the rest will be just ordinary inmates, they'll get to be the "kapos" of the concentration camps???

which is mostly for fiscal reasons.

just sayin.

MONEY is more important than anything else

But once you're in, it's a free pass to all the best sex parties.

above everything else.

The reasoning I've heard from gay Republicans is that they want to "change the party from the inside", meaning they hope to change the GOP's anti-gay stance, because they support the Republicans on other policies.

The thing I don't understand is- if you're already willing to join a party and attempt to change it, to influence the standard party position... why not just join the Democratic Party, or some other party that does not want to exterminate you, and argue for those Republican policies that you support.

African Americans, or anybody else for that matter???

Being gay doesn't make you immune to being a dumbass. Straight people can be smart or stupid. So can gay people. And we already know tons of straight people vote against their own best interests by going Repub, so why not gay folks too?
The Professor

I'm gay and I do personally know a lot of stupid gay people. We are all just people. Some are more ignorant and self serving than others.

. . .and in a professional field, and i know idiots with Ph.D.'s. So, you couldn't be more correct.
The Professor

Just ask JimmyJeff Gannon.

check out David Brock's (who happens to be gay and a former Repub) "Blinded by the Right" book. I'm reading it now and it's quite interesting how he reconciled it in his head back when he was a dittohead Republican.

said inspector Clouseau when asked "How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"

But I have asked the same question about anyone who isn't rich, white and well-connected.

because there a lot of churches that fully welcome gay and lesbian people. I do not go to church as I just do not believe that I need to...but that's a different issue. The bible does not say literally anywhere that gays are an abomination. It never mentions gays anywhere.
And the scriptures that are used against gays are taken out of context. (as most scripture used for beatings are)

I just don't see it the same way. Gay Republican & Church going gays. It's different.

but the christian leadership is totally anti-gay.

weren't always the only party of discrimination.

At least in my area of the country, the Democrats are as likely to propose bans on gay marrige, oppose civil rights, support "Christian" values, etc as Republican's are.

In my area, BOTH parties suck on civil liberties, gay rights, etc. The question is twofold:

1) Which one sucks less on civil rights issues? Democrats in the South and Midwest are finally starting to not such nearly as much as 20 years ago.

2) Which ones do I agree with on other issues? National security, environmental regulations, size of government, tax policy, labor policy, etc.

It is entirely concievable that someone who agrees with the R's on option 2, and finds the D and R equal on option 1, would vote for an R.

That being said, in the last 10 years the R's have betrayed almost all values in number 2, and gotten into bed so much with the religious right, I find it hard to justify anyone continuing to support R's.

And spend all their time trying to justify it.

That is one thing that binds Rethugs together...

Their unanimous hatred of blacks !

and they hate to give it up, so they're fiscally conservative.

:shrug:

of their stance on abortion, and fiscal issues (i.e., the keeping his money away from the "tax-and-spend" democrats). It doesn't make sense to me either, especially his second point.

How can anyone who isn't a rich white guy with a mansion and yacht be a republican?

pandering (remember the "democrats are going to take your bibles away" bs?), and the lower taxes/smaller gov't myths.

Because even smart people can be total idiots when it comes to politics.