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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 07:51 PM
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$500,000 bail for jerking off in a library.
caught on tape

what was Abramoff's bail?

what about Libby?

what about DeLay?

what about Noe?

Cunningham?

Skilling?

Lay?
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 07:53 PM
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1. Hey, we're tough here in Cleveland.
Noe? Unfortuntely even he's in Toledo and out of our jurisdiction. :shrug:
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 07:55 PM
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2. wtf
I think indecent exposure is gross, but HALF A MILLION dollar bail? :wtf:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:12 PM
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18. That's two fifty per sphere..... even Fats Domino never played for
that sort of purse... I don't think.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:51 PM
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24. my mom had a flasher in her library. the lady he flashed still
shudders about it 25 years later when she sees my mom. Dorks. go home and be an idiot.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 09:20 PM
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26. I know
But it's a non-violent crime, and seeing as how people have gotten off (no pun intended :D ) on MURDER and RAPE charges for <10K bail, well, this seems a bit ridiculous, you know? :hi:
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SeaBob Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 09:46 PM
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29. Dorks
I think you are missing the point just a wee bit
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 07:56 PM
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3. Get some perspective!
You got to know what is really serious. Selling out the entire population of the Country is a minor infraction compared to JERKING OFF!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 12:17 AM
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33. Self delete. I am only relating a story about dorks my mom
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 12:19 AM by roguevalley
experienced. I am aware of the dicotomy of this and the rest of the country.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 07:57 PM
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4. That's one hell of a penalty for not being quiet... n/t
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diamondsndust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:02 PM
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5. a little info for the clueless??
was it you?? :shrug: whatyatalkin'bout Willis??
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:07 PM
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11. sssshhhhh!
I TOLD you not to, uh, spill it

QUIT it!

now I'm going to have to become a lobbyist to pay it off

wonder if Phil Gramm's doing any more porn flix
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diamondsndust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:11 PM
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16. LMAO....
I'll see if I can find PeeWee Herman's lawyer's number :rofl:
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AllNamesHaveBeenUsed Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:39 PM
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23. Did you see the show?
It was "whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis."
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diamondsndust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:57 PM
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25. what show??
I haven't seen anything. Actually, in the last 2 months I've just started watching TV again after over 5 years... and I decided today that I was going to quit watching again. I find out whats happening in the world now by reading DU.. I think I can trust it more
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AllNamesHaveBeenUsed Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 05:13 AM
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35. Diff'rent Strokes...
The show from which "Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis" came.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:03 PM
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6. Saw that on my local news
last night and did a double take on that. It was a lady judge but, whether that had anything to do with that bail I don't know. I just said wow at the time.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:04 PM
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7. Hells bells, I know of several rapists who got bail set at 10 grand!
Two of them raped children under the age of 11!
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Snaggletooth Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:12 PM
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17. Comment 15 was supposed to be a reply to comment 7...
I'm not sure what happened there.

Snaggletooth the Crone
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:05 PM
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8. Fucking cleveland news nebnoses, ruining the library for everyone
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:07 PM
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10. For those that don't know
this story was on Countdown tonite.
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AutumnMist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:06 PM
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9. I Think The Amount Should Reflect
not only the flight risk but what the offense was about. Did this person have a past in terms of warrants or arrests? Where children involved? A man jacking off to Dora books while children where present with a past conviction of child molestation would be much worse than some felon behavior. Either way...I frequent libraries with our daughter often. I do not want to see some strange man jacking off in any section of the library, let alone have to decide what the bail would be set at. This person needs help, it might be a very good thing that the bail is so high. Please...most go there for knowledge not porn. I would have to know past convictions and information about this person before I could say the judge was just out of line.
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Snaggletooth Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:09 PM
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15. Yes, but they weren't merely gratifying themselves...
they were also terrorizing someone else. I guess that shows how the government really feels about terrorists.

Snaggletooth the Crone
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:08 PM
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12. Maybe it was because there were kids about
I know I wouldn't appreciate running into that in the middle of the reference section. It was bad enough to see some guy was using the free library internet access to look at naked pictures of boys.

Comparatively speaking, I can see where you're coming from though.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:09 PM
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14. I saw the clip.....there was NOBODY in the room with him
you have a point, but, did you see the other posts, about rapists getting $10K bail

my sister's a judge/former Public Defender. can't wait to hear what she has to say about this
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:08 PM
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13. Sex is still a bigger crime.
Just look at the Clenis.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:18 PM
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19. Good
It's shown that jerks l;ike this, as well as "Peeping Toms," are sexual predators, who often have sexual crimes in their past -- as well as their present. And, that they almost ALWAYS escalate from these behaviors to rape, etc. THis isn't some innocent sex escapade. This is sociopathic behavior (unless the person is mentally ill).

I've worked in several libraries, and this is not uncommon, unfortunately. And, the women it was done too were victimized, and felt assaulted.

Yes, everyone else should have had higher bail -- no argument from me there. But I feel like sex crimes should have huge bail like this (pedophilia, adult rape, etc.). Let the pot smokers alone and nail these bastards , as well as the above mentioned "white collar" ones who've also ruined people's lives.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:26 PM
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20. well, my point in posting was to compare with the money those
crooks had to pay to GOOJ for RAPING the country

I understand what everyone here says about the seriousness of the offense, its ramifications, etc., but that wasn't my original intent

so stop being ACTIVIST posters, SEE!

I'm a strict constructionist

bail is set at whatever I choose, and there will be no precedent
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:37 PM
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22. But, I LOVE being an activist poster!
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:34 PM
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21. Wow! We've had a few weenie waggers in my library.
Usually we just call the cops and have them escorted out with orders never to return.

Admittedly, the one's we've had HAVE kept it in their pants. I think if I saw someone waving it all over our very public computer area which is swarming with kids and old ladies I'd swear out a complaint against the bastard myself.

People expect thier kids to be safe in the library. That trumps any idiot's claim to the right of self-gratification.
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Craig3410 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 09:30 PM
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27. Heh, one of my favorite sports sites covered this like a hawk. :)
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cigsandcoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 09:42 PM
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28. Well don't that beat all...
Sorry.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 09:51 PM
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30. seriously....I mean it
what were bails set for those I listed in the OP?

anybody know?

I don't remember EVER hearing the amount broadcast for any of them

I'll bet a half a million bucks that DeLays' didn't come close to, uh, half a million bucks
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 09:52 PM
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31. what about all the hundreds of jerk-offs in the Executive Branch
not to mention Congress?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 10:02 PM
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32. I'd have to see the tape before judging.
:evilgrin:
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 12:24 AM
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34. Someone must've watched "The Squid and the Whale." n/t
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