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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:32 PM
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anti gay rights groups acknowledge that w/out FMA gay marriage will be law
Edited on Tue Jun-06-06 08:57 PM by ourbluenation
Who says ya never read anything interesting on the dark side. If I have this straight, no pun intended, Casey vs Planned Parenthood may have delivered our gay brothers and sisters all they need! Wow!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1643841/posts
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The Die Is Cast: Why We Need a Amendment
Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 6/5/2006 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 06/05/2006 1:18:01 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback

Today Mark Earley and I will be at the White House, meeting with President Bush and leaders of the pro-family movement. The president will then speak to the nation in support of the federal marriage amendment . Thank God we have a president who supports this. I have discussed it with him several times, and I can tell you that he understands fully the social, cultural, and legal reasons why amending the Constitution is the only way to protect marriage.

Unfortunately, a lot of politicians don’t get it. They argue that we do not need a marriage amendment. If we want to keep marriage between one man and one woman—which they say they do—then all we have to do is pass state referenda. Nineteen states have already done so. So amending the U.S. Constitution is unnecessary.

Well, these politicians apparently do not understand the inexorable logic of a series of cases that make it virtually certain that when state statutes barring gay “marriage” reach the Supreme Court, they will be struck down. Other politicians understand all too well, and when they claim that we do not need a marriage amendment, they are being disingenuous.

Let me explain the precedents that make it inevitable that the Court will uphold gay “marriage.” In the 1992 case Casey v. Planned Parenthood, Justice Kennedy affirmed the right of abortion with a sweeping definition of liberty as the right of a person to determine for himself the meaning of life.

Many feared this definition could embrace anything. Soon enough, it did.

In 1995 the Court struck down a democratically enacted state referendum in Colorado denying special civil rights based on sexual orientation. Kennedy wrote the opinion, Romer v. Evans, saying the vote of the people demonstrated “animus,” that is, bigotry, against homosexuals.

Then in 2003 in Lawrence v. Texas, the Supreme Court struck down a Texas law banning sodomy. Again Justice Kennedy, who could have used a very simple Fourteenth Amendment guarantee argument, resorted instead to his holding in Casey and in Romer v. Evans. By legislating against homosexual behavior, the state was guilty of bigotry or prejudice.

Justice Scalia delivered a blistering dissent. “Today’s opinion,” he said, “dismantles the structure of constitutional law that has permitted the distinction to be made between heterosexual and homosexual unions . . . ” He went on to charge that the case meant the end to the possibility of all legislation concerning morality.

Now, what all of this means is that the Supreme Court, following its own precedents, will declare any law restricting the right of homosexuals to marry unconstitutional. The die is cast. An appeal is already coming up from a Nebraska case in which a judge threw out a statute banning gay “marriage” as unconstitutional. Within two years this will be at the Supreme Court, and the axe will fall.

Just as with Roe v. Wade, the Court will take away the states’ rights to legislate.

The time to act is now. Don’t let politicians deceive you and tell you this is a state issue. The Supreme Court has already closed the door on that. The federal marriage amendment is coming up for a vote tomorrow or the next day. Call your senators right now. Tell them this is the time to vote to protect the most important institution in American life.

Take action:
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:35 PM
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1. bumping - the board is on fuego tonight. don't wanna lose this in the mix
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:40 PM
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2. declare any law restricting the right of homosexuals to marry unconstituti
unconstitutional"

And this is bad, how, again?
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:53 PM
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4. this guy is saying that the SCOTUS unknowingly paved the way
Edited on Tue Jun-06-06 08:54 PM by ourbluenation
to gay marriage with Casey vs Planned Parnethood! That's why they're jonesing to change the consitution - apparently there are cases pending that will test this and they know they'll lose! It's a race to see who gets there first...

Gay Rights activists have the scotus by the balls
anti gay rights activists want to amend the constitution before any cases get to the scotus

on edit - i really need to use that spell checker tool....ugh!

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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:42 PM
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3. woo - HOOO!
:woohoo:

Way to go Chucky - lay it out and watch it happen.

BTW, anybody know what the hell are they afraid of???
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 09:36 PM
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7. Losing the appearance
of being authorities and moral arbiters of others lives,in other words they fear powerlessness and losing the ability to dominate others lives and control them.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 07:25 AM
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11. That sounds right... like your kitty butterfly btw. n/t
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 08:58 PM
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5. changed the thread title - it was too vague before.
b-um-p
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 09:34 PM
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6. Hmmm
In the 1992 case Casey v. Planned Parenthood, Justice Kennedy affirmed the right of abortion with a sweeping definition of liberty as the right of a person to determine for himself the meaning of life.

I dunno about you all..but I don't want the state or the dominator church telling me what the meaning of my life is..0r telling me what the meaning of life itself is in some one size fits all believe it or suffer type of theocracy scenario.I am a heretic and proud of it.

I'm a heretic because I wanna find out for myself what my life means to me on my own..that's what GNOSIS is for!!
Gnosis is knowing or wisdom..Philosophy is Love of Wisdom!
The truth within that scares every authoritarian and rends their power ,empty...

http://gnosticpath.blogspot.com/2006/04/welcome.html
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 09:37 PM
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8. somebody give this a 5th vote for greatest
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 09:39 PM
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9. kicking and recommending
...
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 10:50 PM
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10. OMG!!! "A sweeping definition of liberty!!!!!!!"
Edited on Tue Jun-06-06 10:51 PM by Harvey Korman
RUN FOR THE HILLS! :yoiks:

Why do these people call themselves American?
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 11:02 AM
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12. well there it is...banning gay marriage is toast. FMA defeated.
:)
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