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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 07:20 AM
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Even if there's a Democratic Landslide this Nov. The Neocons remain.
And as long as they are around, they'll raise hell, especially if they are in defeat.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 07:33 AM
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1. perhaps we should learn a lesson from them
and raise a little hell ourseleves

When we had the majority in Congress, it didn't stop the repukes from getting their message out, and their point. The leadership in our party has done very little. We should be calling press conferences and hitting on the outing of a CIA agaent, the illegal wiretaps, the lies of the Iraq war, etc.

There are so many disasters the repukes have done, and we are relatively silent

We can not assume that the incompentence of the repukes will give us a victory.

In fact, this primary should be a wake-up call, but we have had so many, and nothing happens

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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 07:35 AM
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2. They made these stupid rules of attacking opponents, let's play by them
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 07:45 AM
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3. "....we are relatively silent" is the issue, if you watch C-Span and......
....C-Span II you'll notice that Democrats/Liberals have tried to get things through The House and Senate but neocons/fundies won't even allow most of the stuff up for debate. Even so the debates that do hit the House and Senate floor usually include Liberals lambasting the neocon/fundie idiocy. Now, all that being a fact, how do we be anything but "relatively silent"???? I'm open for any and all suggestions.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 08:00 AM
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6. Start advertising on the networks
call press conferences

DO anything that gets media attention

Learn from you advisary. When they were the minority in Congress, they continued to hit us, and get the attention of the news media, and that is what we need to do

No one watches CSPAN except political junkies

What do you think the repukes would be doing right now if we had the majority? Do you think they would remain silent about Iraq, or about the illegal wire-tapping, or the outing of a CIA agent? From the last two decades or more, history says otherwise, and unless we start to point these issues out, then we will have problems

What distinguishes us from the repukes? That is what the people want to hear. They want to know what we bring to the table

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 08:20 AM
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9. Back to 1994....the media did not have the right wing bias...
it has now, and still the GOP managed to win big. Democrats can do the same.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 07:50 AM
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4. They'll have to wait till they get out of prison, first. And remember,
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 08:00 AM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
they've shot people's patience with them, big time. Not least Republicans facing long and very submissive wilderness years. In fact, I'm inclined to think, the best of the Republicans will have to restart their party with a new name.

Respectability, however, superficial, is essential to aspire to the higher reaches of power and to occupy it; and the criminality within this party appears now to be so boundless, (with, just as importantly, the distinct prospect of its being proved in courts of law, and the perpetrators convicted), that the Republican Party could well be viewed in future by the American people as the senior chapter of the Hell's Angels.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 07:53 AM
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5. Any of Bush's legislation would go no where.
We would have the power to make Bush a lame duck.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 08:01 AM
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7. As long as we let them buy our democracy.
Ban the money, and we ban their influence.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 08:01 AM
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8. You Were Expecting The Country To Turn 180???
Many here are...ain't gonna happen. And even if Democrats win that's just the start of a new set of problems...as the Repugnicans showed they played a great game when they were on the outside and couldn't deal with their success without letting their greed and selfishness eventually to get in their way. Unfortunately I see many here who want all or nothing and can't see the middle ground. Dare to disagree with their pet issue or find a middle ground, then you've sold out or never were a "real" Democrat to begin with. That's been my greatest disappointment in recent months...instead of looking at what's happening as an opportunity to nudge the country away from the Rove machine, many here play right into it...snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Even if Democrats win every election in November...not only the neo-cons and the fundie will remain...and more vocal than before...but there's the middle that will swing right rather than left in 2008 if they see extremism on this side. It's real frustrating because the vast majority here have their hearts and minds in the right place...we agree on 70 or 80 or 90 percent of the key issues, yet it's that 10 or 20 or 30 percent that gets magnified and turned against us...many times from within our own house as people look for a person or reason to blame rather than to take a step back and look at the bigger picture.

I keep saying if the Democrats expect to win by default this year, they've lost.

Cheers....
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