Turn it around - re: protecting marriage

I just wish the dems had the balls to turn it around and say they'd rather fight against divorce as a way to protect marriage. Just think of the consequences. The right couldn't really oppose such a proposal, could they? The religious right would yell loudly in favor, right?

Of course, it would never happen (amendment, I mean), but I would LOVE to see the fight!

The way I figure is that the religious right especially would have the most to lose from something like this -- how many "Christians" rush into marriage just so they can have sex?? We all know this is TRUE.

I see it as a win-win issue for the dems, if only they would take it on, if only for demonstration purposes.

show the Repugs for the hypocrites they are. I think it's way past time to start throwing some of their shit back in their face. Way over due!

divorce.

or make it as difficult as possible to obtain divorce.

if you control someones genitals -- you pretty much control the whole person.

We'd end up with divorce being completely illegal

And it IS all about control

mind you i'm an old era person -- i dislike defending womens reproductive rights -- or anything else -- body part by body part.

in high school. Kids are left believing that the status quo is how it always was.

that the right would outlaw divorce! NEVER! Are you kidding???

But it would be fun as hell to watch them squirm while they try to explain their position

pre-marriage counseling. I know, I know, who would do it, regulations, etc. It is not a workable idea, but I like the idea of NOT getting married unless you have spent enough time beforehand. How about a 6 month waiting period (from filing for permission to get married to marriage) like is in many states before divorcing? That would be better.

DEMS need to point out how a healty economy, one that lifts allboats, is the best way to protect marriage.

marriage. It is, obviously, about prejudice. My father is as liberal as I and supports same-sex marriage...but he does so hesitantly saying that it still just doesn't seem right.

THAT is the issue. Protecting marriage is the cover and we can't continue to attack the proposed bans in ways such as this. We need to be upfront and address it positively using the "two adults in a committed, loving relationship" line. I've yet to meet anyone, Republican/Conservative or Democrat/Liberal, from my age group (24) who is against the right of two consenting adults to marry - and I live in Georgia and go to school in Mississippi. The old guard has to leave and then this issue will be resolved.

I don't think we should force feed it to the country - that will only cost us elections...let it evolve over time as I'm confident it will.

don't care about ''gay marriage'' as an issue.

and most have a positive reaction to gay folk period.

the time for forging ahead is now.

they will see the republican strategy as bigotry -- if people have courage to present it that way on a consistent and vocal basis.

i would also point out that we are at the brink of a major, major pr push by the vatican to demonize gay people.

you haven't seen nothin yet from that crew.

a good offence beats a good defence every damn time.

to make divorce unconstitutional, etc.

I agree with you - if we are going to engage the debate we need to attack the prejudice, because that is what it all boils down to.

The problem we have is that the Republicans control the agenda as they are in power. I think the wind is out of their sails on this now (hopefully) and can't use it to rally anyone.

If we really are pro-same sex marriage, we need to proclaim it and aggressively push for it.

the christian right THRIVES on weak responses.

I'm tired of the right leading us by our noses. We seem to react to every lame ass agenda and topic THEY bring up. They keep us running around putting out fires, countering their nonsense and distracting the public, the media and EVERYONE else.

We should stay on message about important issues and tell them to shut the eff up about their social issues nonsense.

Sorry, but that's the unfortunate truth of it.

We need to start playing on their field, but just flipping the rules around 180 degrees -- be smart, don't argue their insane proposals, just flip it around and argue FOR the opposite (preferably something crafty to display their faulty logic)