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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 03:47 PM
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I get so upset with Randi
sometimes when she wont let a caller get in a word edgewise, even when they have good talking points. This guy had some good things to say and he was cut off every time he tried to make his point. I thought that only the crazies like O'Liely did things that way :-(
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 03:48 PM
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1. I thought he sounded like a whiney idiot.
And I thought Randi was incredibly patient with him.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 03:49 PM
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2. I posted the same time as you
and agree. The caller stayed calm throughout, even when Randi was twisting what he had said.
I just turned her off because I couldn't take it anymore.
Randi should remember that we all can learn something.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 03:49 PM
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3. Good talking points?
He was being extremely patronizing and insulting, despite his faux-reasonable tone.
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MamaBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 03:53 PM
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6. I Heard it that way too.
Randi is getting known, and getting noted, and getting on TV. They will do anything to quiet her down.

He was totally condescending.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 03:53 PM
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7. I disagree
Randi was twisting what he said. I know I could not keep my calm when people accuse me of saying things I didn't but that caller managed to keep calm.
Randi then made fun of him after the call saying she wasn't going to focus group what she was going to say.
I generally don't have an argument over what she has to say but her style is getting to me. Yesterday she was on Lou Dobbs' show and one of the other guests had to turn to Lou to get control because Randi kept talking over him.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 04:06 PM
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16. well who the hell was this guy to call Randi and tell her how to broadcast
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 04:07 PM by flyarm
just who the fuck was this guy..do you know?? do you know he wasn't a freeper?? do you?? i don't know..but i sure as hell know he was not a broadcaster, or on-air reporter..so who the fuck was he to tell her what the context of her show should be or how her demeanor should be, or how her delivery should be??

fuck him..if i had been her i would have all but told him to go fuck himself...

Randi had the top radio show in fla for years..so who the fuck is this guy to tell her how to do her job??????????

fly
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 04:14 PM
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21. She could have just said,
hey, I must be doing something right so I'm not changing.
Instead, she twisted what he was saying and spoke over him.
I don't know whether he was a freeper or not. I'm just saying her style was abrasive and rude.
Do you ever listen to Stephanie Miller? She responds to freepers with humor.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 04:35 PM
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23. thats Stephanie Miller's style..its not Randi's style..it is not what has
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 04:38 PM by flyarm
made Randi , Randi..Stephanie Miller's style has gotten Stephanie her following..Randi's style has gotten Randi her following..
i if want to listen to Stephanie Miller..i turn her on..personally i am not fond of Stephanie Miller's style.but do i tell her how to do her job?? i can't stand all the laughing and nonsence on millers show..so i don't listen to her..that is my choice..she gets on my nerves..but that is my opinion and i don't tell her or her listeners how she should broadcast..different strokes for different folks..

i love Randi's style..i don't have to listen to a bunch of chit chat jokes..and all kinds of laughing crap to hear the news or info i want to hear..

randi is blunt..she is factual, she is smart ..and i like that..i don't like all the bullshit crap..if i wanted that i would listen to Franken or s. miller..i don't..my choice...

same as your choice..

its really a simple thing..turn her off if you don't like her style..but don't tell everyone else how she should change..i don't want her to change..i think she is brilliant the way she is ..the way she has broadcast for years..i love her..i love what she does..

different stroke for different folks...keep listening to Stephanie Miller..i think thats great..the more porgressive shows that succeed the closer we are to taking our country back....i won't ...but i won't tell you she should change because i don't like her style!

everyone should get their info from where they are comfortable..

end of story

fly

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 04:44 PM
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25. thats pretty rude and over the top
I guess people cant be passionate about something???

:shrug:
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Master Mahon Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 03:50 PM
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4. I agree with you
She can get obnoxious at times and it seems that she doesn't take the time to hear what the person is saying, which is frequently in agreement with her.
Otherwise, I like her show. She's got 'nads'! :+
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 03:53 PM
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8. I think she has huge ones also,
and I only wish I could be a quick on my feet as she is, however, I do have to turn her off occasionally because of this kind of stuff. She really should listen more often, otherwise she just comes off as a hard-headed know-it-all.
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 03:51 PM
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5. She let him go on awfully long, actually.
For her. :evilgrin:

Seriously, and I posted this on the other thread too, he asked a question and she answered-- and he didn't like the answer. He wanted the difference between her and Ann to be in their tone. She told him it's in the facts. He thought that wasn't good enough. IMHO, he can change the damn channel.
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 03:54 PM
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9. Haven't Found Her to Misjudge a Caller Yet.
I suppose it's possible, everyone's human. It's to be expected given her energetic manner that if you don't have your points well organized and thought out, or if they're not really consistent with liberal/progressive thinking, you're going to have a hard time either getting them past her or last very long.
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 03:55 PM
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10. She doesn't let her guests talk.
I'm a fan, but I've stopped listening because she rants so much. She doesn't give her callers enough opportunity to say what they want to say.

She's too obnoxious too often.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 04:07 PM
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17. I think most Radio shows interrupt callers to keep the show moving.
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 04:09 PM by applegrove
From reading the posts of all the others on this thread.. sounds like Randi was just doing her job. Of course.. the hate Randi threads or pick at her.. have been on a huge incline lately. I think that is the problem really.. she is doing her job well - which is to give voice to Liberals & Democrats everywhere. And expand and discuss the liberal values under attack.

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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 04:50 PM
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26. Yeah, you're a real fan.
"I'm a fan, but I've stopped listening"????????????

:rofl:
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 03:57 PM
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11. Give Me a Break
the guy was a phoney freeper....
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 05:18 PM
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28. you bet he was..because she let him talk a long time and he said he
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 05:19 PM by flyarm
reads coulters books..and he agrees with her sometimes and randi somtimes...

it was a typical freeper call...acting like they are a fan and then going on about the freeper talking ponts..i was glad she jumped on him..i was screaming freeper when he said he reads coulters books and sometimes agrees with her...

he was a freeper..i am surprised Randi let him talk as long as she did..she was much more polite than i would have been!

when is the last time a liberal got a phone call into Limbo??



enough with the nice stuff..i am sick of having to be nice when we get our brains beat in everytime we turn the tv or radio on!

i want my country back..and that means we have to get tougher..and toughen up...

fly
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 03:59 PM
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12. That Irritates The Heck Out Of Me Too. She Needs To Learn How To
not be rude to the callers and allow them to actually talk a little. That drives me nuts about her and has caused me many times to change the channel. I think she's really good when she's just going off on a topic when it is just her alone and she does make really good points and arguments most of the time. But when she's stepping on callers and guests left and right it irritates me to the point of having to turn her off, unfortunately.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 04:02 PM
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13. please knock it off with the mad/upset /pissed at Randi stuff..
she is who she is..those of us who love her and listen to her know who she is..and we love her for that..she is articulate..she says what needs to be said..she is informed..and she is not a pandering jerry springer..

if you want jerry listen to him..if you want the truth .,.that can not be denied..and hard hitting truth listen to randi and mike malloy..they are not for the weak kneed , lilly livered..

they say it like it is..and that most times has to come hard and honest..

don't like it turn her off..but leave her alone..most of us who listen to her love her the way she is!!!!!!!!

Randi and Mike Malloy speak for me..just the way they are!!!!!!!!

and tough if you don't like it!

fly
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 04:09 PM
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19. agreed flyarm, Randi is a flawed but passionate, compassionate,
informed human being. I too, love her exactly as she is. Her strength is not necessarily in phone calls or interviews, although she usually does just fine with those too.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 04:40 PM
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24. Nah, No Need To. People Have A Right To Express Themselves And Their
opinions.

Randi is well informed and often articulate, but she can also frequently be obnoxiously irritating and rude.

I find nothing wrong with people choosing to comment on that or offer their opinion that they wish she was more polite to guests.

We want our liberal hosts to gather as big as an audience as possible. I think she has definitely limited her audience at times due to her obnoxious potential. And those who tune out aren't less liberal, many, like me, are wholehearted dems who enjoy her when she's on her game but simply just can't take her shrill and obnoxious moments.

Nothing wrong with expressing that, and yes, we can change the channel; and we do. But since we are liberals, and have very few liberal hosts to turn to, it is to be expected that there will be critique of the few we do have. Nothing wrong with expression, so stop sweatin it.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 05:32 PM
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29. and there is nothing wrong with me expressing that i am tired
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 05:33 PM by flyarm
of the pissing matches daily about randi..and her broadcast style...

your opinion is valuable... as is mine!!

i like randi just as she is ..it is what has made her successful..and its what made me put xm into my entire house as i love her just the way she is!!

now if we could each and everyday have posts critisizing Limbo..or Hannity..then we are getting somewhere ..but when we rip up our own,.on a daily basis..what are we accomplishing??

if you like Franken listen to him..you will get the polite stuff all you want..or the springer soft sell ..go for it.,.

i like Randi just as she is..and i adore Mike Malloy..i want my info..straight..no jokes..no glitter..

and thats my opinion...

what you like may not be what i like..but you are entitled to what you like..

just leave those i like alone and listen to what you like..i don't critique the other shows..others like that stuff..

some love the soft sell stuff..the polite stuff..i don't..

personally i am sick of the polite stuff..where has it gotten us??

fly
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 05:54 PM
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33. No One Said There Was Anything Wrong With It. But It Was The Request
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 05:55 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
to squelch others opinions of which I responded to. Sure, you have every right to voice your opinion and I'd never say otherwise.

But I have some issues with your declarations and spin. First, you say our opinions are equally valuable. If so, then why the request of others to not speak theirs? If each opinion is to be valued, than each opinion should have equal freedom to be heard.

Secondly, complaining about hannity or limbaugh is frequent, but regardless quite meaningless to our cause. We don't care what they do or say cause they're morons no matter what. Our critique isn't going to sway them into moving more towards the left or being actual decent human beings, so what would the point be in the critique in the first place?

Thirdly, you spin several times that the complaints were asking for her to be polite and use soft sell tactics. Well that's a load of horse crap. My complaints, and many others, have nothing to do with that. We want straight talking, strong and informed voices that are blunt and direct. That's not our complaint about her. The complaint is that you can be those ways and do those things without babbling on incessantly and obnoxiously while squashing your callers and not giving them a chance to speak even though many have quite important and interesting things to say. That has nothing to do with soft sell or politeness, it has to do with not being an obnoxious egotistical center of attention host.

I want her to be strong, direct, and every bit as brutally honest as she is. I think when she goes off on a good rant she's damn entertaining and informative, and I enjoy her often. But I also think sometimes she rants too much and goes off topic, and also is far too rude and obnoxious to her callers. At those times, she turns me off completely. So no, it had nothing to do with your soft sell spin. It is what it is.

Lastly, you declare "just leave those I like alone". Ummmm, No. I think you need to get over yourself with that request, with all due respect.

Peace,

OMC
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 04:02 PM
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14. He was an asshole.
Phony as all hell. Freeper in disguise.

After he said he occasionally agreed with Colter, there was nothing he could say that was worth listening to. I was surprised that Randi missed that comment of his.
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Suziq Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 04:02 PM
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15. Oy Vey . . .
It's the June 7th obligatory bash Randi thread. The guy was a friggin freeper. :eyes:
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 04:53 PM
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27. Yeah...I love how some come out in droves to bitch about her.
I agree, that asshole was a total freeper and I wish she had bitch slapped him harder then she did. Honestly, if you want nicey nice listen to Springer, Franken and leave the Goddess for people who can take her.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 04:08 PM
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18. yea let us all know where you work
and we'll call in and criticize the way YOU do your job...I hate when people try and tell me how I should act on stage...get your own gig-I agree totally with RR-and...she was way more patient that I would have been
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 04:12 PM
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20. Talk shows
are generally about letting the host talk. Most are annoying.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 05:41 PM
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30. She gets like that when she's defensive. She's angry about Coulter.
Never call her when she's defensive.
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clbuck Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 05:50 PM
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31. I must be weird
I love listening to Mike Malloy, but I can't stand Randi. They both have a similar amount of anger against Republicans, but I think Mike comes off as more professional (they both have done talk radio for a long time). I guess it's the difference between being in the Midwest and South versus being on the East Coast.

Plus he handles phone callers better (both freepers and supportive callers); he at least tries to sound friendly and polite until they ramble on or say something bogus.

By the way, there is an alternative to Randi and Ed from 3 PM - 5 PM: Guy James, who is streamed from White Rose Society.
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 05:53 PM
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32. That's what hate radio is all about...
Whether it's Randi, Malloy, Hannity or Drugbo, it's the common theme of hate radio - don't let other people talk....
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 06:08 PM
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35. That's Bullshit... Randi is Not Hate Radio
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 06:09 PM by stepnw1f
and the guy was a FREEPER.... he's lucky he got two words in with his phoney bullshit. One thing I despise is a disingenuis coward who pretends to be someone they aren't. Only a complete fool would believe this guy to be genuine... in fact he sounded as phoney as Pat Robertson.
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 12:36 AM
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39. I didn't even hear the guy so he may or may not have been a freeper.
But hate radio is hate radio, whether you like to hate with it or not. I choose not to.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 06:44 PM
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37. How EXACTLY are you equating Randi with
Hannity and Rush Limbaugh? I'm intrigued here. Please share.
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 12:35 AM
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38. Hate.
Randi's hate is on the other side of the spectrum as Drugbo and Hannity, but it's hate nonetheless. Call me sensitive, but hate hurts my ears no matter where the hate is directed.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 07:21 AM
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40. I'm not sure that "sensitive" is the right word for you.
How you get "hate" out of Randi Rhodes is beyond me. She deals in facts. Period. And injects a healthy dose of New York City humor into her show. She has no time for the criminals currently running this country nor the people that support them.

I have listened to her since the WJNO days and I have never once heard her preach hate. I'm not sure what happy world you live in but I can assure you that if our side tries to play nicey nice with these thugs we are going to come out on the bottom every time. And that is a fact.
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:40 AM
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41. So you propose we join them in the gutter, then?
Not me. But let me know how it's going in that stinky, hate-filled mess.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 01:12 PM
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43. Hey hey! A+ for effort anyway.
Good try for a strawman argument! As I said in some detail in my previous post, Randi doesn't preach hate and isn't IN the gutter. Really now, go sing Kum ba ya with some of your pals and do a great big group hug.

Buh bye.
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:03 AM
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45. I didn't mean to get you all into a lather...
If that type of rhetoric is what appeals to you, then more power to you. But hate is hate no matter what you want to classify it as or whoever side it is on. Buh bye back atcha.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 05:58 PM
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34. Unfortunately, she does the same thing
when she is on a TV talk show. I just want to scream at her, "Randi, shut up and let the other side talk."
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:50 AM
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42. "Randi, shut up and let the other side talk." ???? The 'other side'
has a book of talking points, turned phrases (Estate Tax = Death Tax....Late Term Abortion = Partial Birth Abortion) and how to behave on talk panels. ONE of their 'Modus Operandi' is to INTERUPT A DEMOCRAT WHEN THEY'RE TALKING, INTERUPT THEIR TRAIN OF THOUGHT AND NEVER LET THEM FINISH MAKING THEIR POINT. THAT is what reukes DO. They have done it since Newt Gingrich wrote his little instruction booklet for the sheeple. Randi is only doing what THEY do and have done for years. She's one of a few who can dish it just as well as the WH shills do.

Let the other side talk? They OWN the freakin' media.
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 06:21 PM
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36. Her style is fine - she needs bigger breasts though.
If only she would get a boob job... then she would be more acceptable to me.

These posts about Randi's style always remind me of this kind of mentality. Like she said: "I yam what I yam."

There are some lefty radio shows I don't care for... I don't listen. Not every host is going to appeal to everyone.

I'm very thankful for what Randi Rhodes does. I would never in a million years presume to tell her (or anyone) to change their demeanor to conform to my idea of perfection/acceptability.

Randi: Love her or leave her.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 01:17 PM
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44. same talking points over and over. Randi tells it likeit is
that is what she gets paid to do



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