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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 08:32 PM
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IranContra figure may call on Kerry to spill beans for court case.
Posada lawyer may call Kerry, North

As Venezuela seeks to block U.S. citizenship for Cuban exile militant Luis Posada Carriles, his lawyer may look to Sen. John Kerry and Oliver North to testify about Posada's former ties to the U.S. government.
BY OSCAR CORRAL AND PABLO BACHELET
ocorral@MiamiHerald.com

In an effort to free Cuban exile militant Luis Posada Carriles from federal detention and help him qualify for U.S. citizenship, his attorney may call on U.S. Sen. John Kerry and Oliver North of Iran-contra fame to testify about Posada's ties to the U.S. government.

Posada's lawyer, Eduardo Soto, said Tuesday that he is considering subpoenaing Kerry and North because their testimony may assure U.S. immigration officials that Posada was working for the U.S. government during the contra war against the Sandinistas in Nicaragua in the mid-1980s.

Soto said Posada, who was once a legal U.S. resident, should receive U.S. citizenship because he served as an active-duty soldier for the U.S. Army in Vietnam, and later as a paid U.S. agent in Nicaragua.

''He was the lead prosecutor in Iran-contra,'' Soto said of Kerry, the Massachusetts Democrat who unsuccessfully challenged President Bush for the White House in 2004. ``He is a man who has personal knowledge of investigations, reports, testimony, everything that Iran-contra entails.''

More and pics at

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/14760173.htm?source=rss&channel=miamiherald_local


I wonder if Sen Kerry will be called to testify, and if so, will it renew mainstream discussion of Iran-Contra?


Interesting.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 08:40 PM
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1. Well, Americans are now familiar with some names also involved with 9-11
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 08:53 PM by blm
and Bin Laden and other terrorist armsdealers and moneylaunderers.

I would bet BushInc has the Justice Dept. settle the case before it gets far - and I will bet that is exactly what Posada's lawyers had in mind by saying they'll call Kerry. The last thing BushInc wants is John Kerry under oath answering what he knows about IranContra - especially the classified stuff that Clinton helped close the books on in 1993.

The article was wrong when it said Kerry prosecuted the case - he didn't. He's the one who uncovered it and investigated it for over a year before anyone in the senate would even listen to him.

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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 08:48 PM
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2. This one's right up your alley, blm.
Good point, and a smart move by his lawyer.
I'm not taking that bet.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:01 PM
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3. I hope Octafish and H2O Man see this -
robertpaulsen and Minstrel Boy, too.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:24 AM
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10. Posada links BFEE to terrorism, narcotrafficking and Dallas.
An excelelnt overview:



Party Games for Terrorists

by Julie Webb-Pullman

EXCERPT...

A terrorist’s life is tough. None of this nine to five, have a nice day at the office dear. Oh no, it really is gruelling. Take the October 1997 assassination plot against Fidel Castro, when the crew of ‘La Esperanza’ cabin cruiser had to sail 900 miles in one day – no wonder they foundered off Puerto Rico, the poor darlings were obviously exhausted by achieving such a seemingly impossible feat! They hadn’t even had time to unwrap their fishing gear, let alone use their ammunition, fatigues, night-vision goggles, sophisticated communications gear, tripods and two .50-caliber semi-automatic rifles capable of firing flat-trajectory bullets one mile, before those spoil-sport Coast Guards found them and took them away. How kind of the Miami Federal Court to let the poor babies off – the Florida justice system understands how difficult things are for such hard-working dedicated cold-blooded killers, especially if they also happen to work for the CIA. Pesquera, FBI man in charge of the case, understood only too well that terrorists need a break, that just like everyone else, they need to have fun. They even have their very own party games - just ask Luis Posada Carriles.

He’s been playing with the CIA for years, and the CIA gang he was in always had such a blast! Its name was Operation 40, and it had people in it who would later shoot to the top, becoming almost as famous as him. For example, Papa Bush was personally involved in its formation, and he went on to become Director of the CIA, and even President of the US. Playing ‘Senior Says’ was lots of fun, as future Watergate burglars Felipe de Diego, Frank Sturgis, Virgilio Gonzalez, Eugenio Martinez and E. Howard Hunt discovered, not to mention Orlando Bosch, Guillermo Novo Sampol, Ignacio Novo Sampol and the infamous Felix Rodriguez, who not only supervised Bolivian police in capturing and murdering Che Guevara, but who with Pedro Remon was responsible for the first ever assassination of a UN diplomat (Felix Garcia, in 1980), and who later was immortalised as "Max Gomez," running guns to the dope-trading Contras in Nicaragua then testifying about it in 1987 before the Senate Iran-Contra investigators.

This gang did really cool things like trying to invade Cuba at the Bay of Pigs in 1961, and on November 22, 1963, Luis Posada Carrilles, Guillermo Novo, Orlando Bosch and Frank Sturgis were all present in Dealey Plaza, the Dallas square were John F. Kennedy was assassinated. Now, THAT was a real blast!

They were at such a loose end when the government disbanded them in 1970 after one of their planes crashed in southern California with kilos of heroin and cocaine aboard. It was nice of President Nixon's Attorney General, John Mitchell, not to mention the Operation 40 heroes they caught, when a few months later he celebrated the destruction of "a nationwide ring of wholesalers handling about 30 percent of all heroin sales and 70 to 80 percent of all cocaine sales in the United States."

But as they say, the devil finds work for idle hands, and very soon Posada, the Novo brothers, Orlando Bosch, Frank Castro and others were playing ‘Senior Says’ again, forming another gang called CORU, and meeting in the Dominican Republic in June 1976 to plan even bigger and better games. Guillermo and his brother Ignacio are the kind of guys Posada really likes to hang with – Guillermo fired a bazooka across the East River at the United Nations building while Che Guevara was addressing the General Assembly in '64, and Ignacio did the same thing at the Cuba pavilion at the Montreal World's Fair in '67 – rad! Their new gang went on to do even wilder things, like plant a car-bomb (generously paid for by Pinochet’s secret police) in broad daylight in Washington, DC, which killed formerly foreign minister of Chile Orlando Letelier and US human rights pioneer Ronnie Moffitt, and a few weeks later they caused the mid-air explosion of a Cuban civilian airliner over Barbados, killing all 73 people on board. They were also implicated in the murders of Chilean General Carlos Prats and his wife Sofia Cuthbert, and hop-scotched all over the continent participating directly in the planning and execution of the thousands of sinister acts of torture, disappearances and murders of Operation Condor, in coordination with the CIA and security services of the Southern Cone military dictatorships of Uruguay, Paraguay, Brazil, Chile, and Argentina, as well as other countries such as Bolivia and Dominican Republic.

What luck that George Bush was by then the director of the CIA and could stonewall the Letelier-Moffitt investigation, or the Novo brothers couldn’t have kept playing – but then dopey Guillermo went and got busted in Miami with a pound of coke and ended up being found guilty of the Letelier-Moffitt terror homicides...but the appeal courts showed they are as understanding of terrorists’ needs as the Florida federal court, and overturned his conviction, as well as Ignacio’s for perjury. The brains behind the airliner bombing, Bosch and Posada Carriles, weren’t quite so lucky – they were busted in Venezuela. But that was okay – it meant they got to play even better games!

CONTINUED...

http://scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0506/S00046.htm



OPERATION 40?
WASN'T THAT
PORTER GOSS,
POPPY?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:00 AM
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11. HAHAH!!! I knew this thread would grab you. It would be great if
something as small as this could cause the dam to break, but, I'm not counting on it. You think Bush will let this get to a courtroom? I think they'll DEMAND it to be settled before it gets much publicity. And that will be a shame for this country.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:36 AM
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12. Big Can of Worms Thing
Bush will do his durndest to keep Posada out of court and his story out of the press.

Still, we have to make do with what we can. And once enough people know the Truth, it's over for the gangsters.

Case in point, Dallas:



Posada Carriles and the Kennedy assassination

By Deirdre Griswold
Published Jun 7, 2005 9:54 PM

EXCERPT...

Even Congress saw a conspiracy

The nexus of Cuban counter-revolutionary exiles, the CIA and organized crime figures in the Kennedy assassination has long been known. Even though the official U.S. government position remains that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone assassin, the majority of people here and around the world don't buy it. And the one investigation of the assassination by Congress--by the House Select Committee on Assassinations--found in its final report that "President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy."

Despite all the evidence showing the involvement of right-wingers, however, especially those who held Kennedy responsible for the failure of the Bay of Pigs invasion, the corporate media continue to deride "conspiracy theorists." They cite the Warren Commission as their authority--a commission that included former CIA Director Allen Dulles, the architect of the 1961 Bay of Pigs invasion.

Many scholars have investigated the role of Operation 40 in the Kennedy assassination. Operation 40 was a special group inside the CIA set up with the authorization of the National Security Council right before the Bay of Pigs. Historian Arthur Schlesinger referred to it in a June 1961 memo to Richard Goodwin: "The ostensible purpose of Operation 40 was to administer liberated territories in Cuba. But the CIA agent in charge, a man known as Felix, trained the members of the group in methods of third degree interrogation, torture and general terrorism."

That man in charge was Felix Rodriguez, who in 1967 led the CIA squad that captured and then murdered Che Guevara in Bolivia. He took Che's Rolex watch and proudly displayed it to reporters afterwards. His Miami home is decorated with photos of himself and George H.W. Bush together.

SNIP...

Bush, Goss and Operation 40

In Escalante's view, it was the members of Operation 40 who had the training and the sharpshooting ability necessary to carry out the assassination of Kennedy. The Cuban counter-intelligence chief identified the North Americans in the group as David Morales, David Phillips, E. Howard Hunt, William Harvey, Frank Sturgis, Gerry Hemming, John Rosselli, "who was second head of the Chicago mafia at that time in '62," and Porter Goss. Goss is now head of the CIA, nominated by George W. Bush, son of the former CIA head.

CONTINUED...

http://www.workers.org/2005/us/posada-jfk-0616/



Thanks for being there, throughout, L. Much obliged.

MINDLESS
GANGSTER
MONKEY
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 12:26 PM
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16. A timely thread from you can actually move it into the foreground as an
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 12:26 PM by blm
issue, at least here. I'm sure you've begun to notice that Parry's articles are increasingly showing signs of regular DU consumption.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:44 PM
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22. Posada is Bush Crime Family's Favorite Terrorist.
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 09:45 PM by Octafish
When it comes to an Idea, timing can be everything.

When it comes to the Truth, anytime is a good time.



The Bush Family's Favorite Terrorist

By Jerry Meldon & Robert Parry
April 25, 2005

While the Bush administration holds dozens of suspected Muslim terrorists on secret or flimsy evidence, one of the world’s most notorious terrorists slipped into the United States via Mexico and traveled to Florida without setting off any law enforcement alarms.

Though the terrorist’s presence has been an open secret in Miami, neither President George W. Bush nor Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has ordered a manhunt. The U.S. press corps has been largely silent as well.

The reason is that this terrorist, Luis Posada Carriles, was a CIA-trained Cuban whose long personal war against Fidel Castro’s government is viewed sympathetically by the two Bush brothers and their father. When it comes to the Bush family, Posada is the epitome of the old saying that “one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.”

The Bush administration – which has imprisoned Jose Padilla and other alleged Muslim “enemy combatants” without trial – has taken a far more lenient approach toward the 77-year-old Posada, who is still wanted in Venezuela for the bombing of a Cubana Airlines plane in 1976 that killed 73 people. Posada also has admitted involvement in a deadly hotel bombing campaign in Cuba in 1997.

SNIP...

Venezuelan authorities say they have a standing request with the United States for Posada’s extradition in connection with the Cubana Airline bombing. But the Bush administration is not expected to honor that request because Venezuela’s current government of Hugo Chavez has close ties to Cuba.

CONTINUED...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2005/042405.html



Tippo @#$&! HTML.

ADDLED DOPE
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:15 AM
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24. And always time for Octafish to enlighten the rest of us WHY all this
Edited on Fri Jun-09-06 09:15 AM by blm
matters - - - cuz the Bushes crimes run truly deep and exztend into almost every issue on the table today and the Bushes are like RUST for this country and RUST really never sleeps, does it?
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 01:00 AM
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4. Kerry has some of a record
From now and as far back as the Nixon era. He was there all the time, like some good spirit combating all the corruption. It's amazing he isn't more known outside the US, or wasn't until the 2004 elections.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:07 AM
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8. That was a great description - this world would probably have slipped into
full-bore global fascism by the early 90s if Kerry hadn't sought to uncover what was going on in IranContra and especially BCCI. Clinton couldn't have beaten Bush1 but for the fact there was the constant drumbeat about his connections to IranContra and BCCI and Iraqgate (thanks Henry Gonzalez). The American people lost trust in him.

Unfortrunately, once Clinton did take office, he closed the books on all BushInc's crimes. And THAT is what brought us the more muscled BushInc in 2000 - stronger and more brutal than ever.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 01:15 AM
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5. "Renew" mainstream discussion of Iran-Contra?
I didn't notice that there was much.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:33 AM
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13. Back then Americans really didn't grasp how terrorism effects them or that
their country was more deeply involved in supporting it. Most still don't - many of us do. We can help propel the real story, but unfortunately, the GOP also has a tighter grip on the broadcast media now than it ever did then.
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 11:31 AM
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14. I watched the Iran-Contra hearings on TV during breaks from work.
It was discussed, although it was years ago now. The problem is that Bush Sr., that traitor, pardoned everyone involved to save his ass and the collective asses of the other fascists who had hijacked our government. If we could have tried the lot of them for treason and executed them before Bush grabbed his pen to sign the pardons, we wouldn't be having the problems we have now.

Hindsight, alas, is 20/20.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:37 PM
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19. Actually, there was still more to go that Walsh had even after the pardons
and Walsh could have taken on Bush directly, but Clinton wanted the books closed - he claims in his book he just wanted Bush to have a peaceful retirement. I don't believe it, because strangely enough, Clinton never even mentions BCCI even ONCE in his book - pretty strange for someone with an avid interest in world doings.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:18 AM
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6. He's a terrorist. It would be good for Kerry not to help him.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:10 AM
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9. It's not a matter of Kerry HELPING him - Kerry couldn't deny a subpoena
and all he would have to do is tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may.

But does anyone believe BushInc will allow Kerry on the stand and under oath HAVING to reveal what he knows about IranContra that was classified information? They will settle, imo.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 11:43 AM
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15. "let the chips fall where they may"
Which could in fact work out in interesting ways...

Which is probably why it will indeed be settled.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 12:36 PM
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17. Exactly - and that includes the Clinton circle. No way do they want people
to think about what they covered up when they decided to close the books on IranContra and BCCI in 1993.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:29 AM
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7. ...working for the government as a state sponsored terrorist.
If he'd want to make Posada look like he's a good guy, he might rather not want to bring up the whole Iran-Contra thing...

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:05 PM
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21. are you kidding? most people have no idea how low BushInc stooped
in IranContra. I say let it all out.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:31 AM
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23. I'm not clear on that
(though i'll take your word for it)

I'd think it doesn't take much digging to find out Oliver North is guilty as hell even though he got no more than a slap on the wrist, and that the rest of 'm got pardoned by one of their own.
If nothing else, the CIA drug trafficking is on the record, Kerry didn't make a secret of that during the hearings. Though i guess the fact that the Sandinistas were not the bad guys there was subdued in the process.

I'm really wondering how this would work out if it went to court. Not that i'm very optimistic..
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 01:42 PM
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18. kick n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:47 PM
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20. Interesting! n/t
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