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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:04 PM
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Results of Close Busby/Bilbray U.S. House Special Election in Doubt!
From BradBlog
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002924.htm

The fact that the thin margin between the two at this hour (with "100% of the votes counted", according to the CA Sec. of State's website) is a mere 4,732 votes -- in a race where 125,882 votes were reportedly cast in a county with more than 355,000 voters registered -- is not even the largest question. Neither is the so-far unclear question of how the race will be affected by the 68,500 absentee and provisional ballots still to be counted in San Diego County according to the SD Registrar of Voters website at this hour.

The biggest concern about the race, by far, is that San Diego County uses two types of Diebold voting systems -- optical-scan and touch-screen -- both of which have not only proven to be disastrously unreliable in San Diego County and California in the past, but have also been demonstrated over the last six months to feature dozens of exceedingly well-documented and remarkable security vulnerabilities, making them extremely accessible to tampering.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:10 PM
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1. for the mere fact that....
if we have questionable outcomes in the news enough times, the average American will start yelling for a reliable way to vote, and hopefully, voting over a 5 day period, with results announced on the following Monday or something....


thanks and hope she pulls it out in the end of all this!
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:22 PM
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2. Here we go. At least now it seems some recounts are taking place. K&R
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 09:25 PM by Stevepol
In IA a recount is underway after a huge miscount using ES&S optiscans (attributable to some sort of "glitch" of course). One candidate, hardly know at all, had beaten a well-liked guy who'd been in the office for years. The recount is showing that the result was the exact opposite.

This would not have been recounted of course if they hadn't known the individuals involved and decided to recount.

Move along, no problem here, just a little "glitch."

Link: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16751509&BRD=2703&PAG=461&dept_id=555106&rfi=6

This link by the way is deserving of its own post because of what it indicates about counties thru-out America using the ES&S optiscans (like MN, which stole the Mondale election in 02 I believe using the same software I think). If nobody else wants to make this a new thread for ERD, I'll do it later.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 12:40 AM
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28. Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!
Right in the heartland of America, the machines altered an election! Whoa!

What we have been saying forever has come true! The machines can not be trusted! Whoa!

This is a scandal of the highest degree! No election that has used these machines can be trusted!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:23 PM
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3. Ed Schultz was talking about the 68,000 absentee votes not counted yet.
That's a WHOLE LOT of votes when a win is less than 5,000 apart. Hmmmm. A caller to Ed's show also said he had stopped by Busby's campaign headquarters and everyone was gone! I sure hope that doesn't mean she has given up!!!!!
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 10:06 PM
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16. there can't possibly be 68,000 absentee ballots
The number of votes cast in the election was only around 120,000. Either you misheard Ed Schultz or he has been fed a line of bs by someone.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 10:09 PM
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17. This is what it says right now on the San Diego election site
http://www.sdvote.org/election/primary.xml

THESE RESULTS ARE UNOFFICIAL
Last updated on: 06-07-06 at: 07:02:03
There are approximately 68500 Absentee / Provisional ballots still to be counted
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 10:13 PM
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19. That is for all of San Diego.... A subset is probably for 50th
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 10:15 PM by calipendence
district... Since you have 5 districts here (Issa, Filner, Davis, Hunter, and 50th), I'm guessing it's between a fourth and fifth of that total. There are also provisional ballots to look at too. Don't know if that's in that total.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 10:55 PM
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23. Ed Schultz was also talking about how lame democrats are
how they bent over for this race they should have won. the more he talked, the more i was thinking 'diebold'.

he was lamenting that 'we' should break into 'their' (republicans, i assume) locker room and 'steal their playbook'. he seems to forget that we *don't* have a problem winning elections, seeing we won the last two.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 11:22 PM
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24. I dunno. A lot of th4e things he said are true.
The Pubs were more determined to win that race. So much so that they poured $5.5 million into it. His point was that if the Dems had that same determination, the DNC, DCC, & DLC sould have matched the $$. I heard him say, if you're losing by 25% then you consider it a spot you can't win,k but when you're as close as this one was, the PARTY should have poured the $$ in, and sent the ground experts (do we even have any?) in for the last 3 days to secure the election.

I see your point that it sounds like the Pub strategy, but damn it, it does work!!!!
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 11:35 PM
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25. ack. i missed that part.
turned it on right after that and missed the context. mia culpa.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:34 PM
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31. Francine's taking a much needed break while absentee ballots are
counted.
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:32 PM
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4. Hey! Look here.......am I reading this right?
http://vote.ss.ca.gov/Returns/usrep/5000.htm

According to this, Busby wins! By something like 9,000 votes!!
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Grebrook Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:33 PM
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6. That's the primary, not general, for the NEXt general election
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:43 PM
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9. OMG - please! Not this again!
This has been posted like 25 times today - that was the primary for Novembers election.
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:48 PM
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11. sorry...it's listed as taking place yesterday.
sorry. i'be been out today and this was all i could find... again...i'm very sorry for being "out of the loop"
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:49 PM
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12. np - I'm sorry for being frustrated about seeing it again
I just want to move on...
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Grebrook Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:33 PM
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5. This can't be right
68,500 uncounted ballots so far? They wouldn't have called the race. They must have been counted already. That can't be an accurate number. 68,000 is, in itself, HALF of what has already been cast.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:38 PM
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7. Oh please...
Does it ever end? Are we going to go through this nonsense everytime we lose an election. Busby lost. It's over.

The Bradblog is NOT a serious source of news.

Sigh..
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:42 PM
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8. Yep - every single time
It kind of bothers me too - we have to stop this :(

Surmising is fine, but it's also another word for wild speculation.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:57 PM
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14. Yes, we have to keep going through this
that's what happens when you use a voting system that can't be verified. People question the results. Every time.

It's like trying to buy a can of vegetables that has no label. Someone in the store might tell you what's in it, but as far as you know, it could be anything inside that can.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 10:13 PM
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18. For one second
forget about Bradblog. Focus on the votes being counted (and being verified) accurately every time.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 12:06 AM
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26. Bradblog isn't a serious source of news?
Says who?
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:45 PM
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10. when I first heard the results, I was wondering if Diebold was involved
:puke: My worst fears have been proven right. The repukes have stolen another one---at least they're claiming the win in the M$M. That pug Mehlman was on Tweety tonight crowing about how wonderfully smart the repukes are to have "won" this.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:54 PM
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13. Your deluding yourself...
Reading one silly article from, of all places, "The Bradblog" and you believe the Republicans stole the election. This is what you will accept as proof of this conspiracy? That this is the state of least some of the activist base of the Democratic Party is frightening. Do we also believe UFO's are sucking our candidates into flying saucers and forcing them to say utterly stupid things at the close of an election cycle?

This gets more pathetic by the day.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 10:02 PM
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15. Of course the Republicans wouldn't steal
an election...those folks are upstanding, Bible-carrying leaders of the community. They don't have a deceitful bone in their bodies.

I could have sworn I read on some blog that someone by the name of 'imajinx' was levitated into some type of aviation machinery. The imajinx was reportedly screaming over and over, "I'm scared of the base. I'm scared of the base."

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 10:14 PM
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21. BWAHAHAHAHHA!!!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 10:13 PM
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20. recommended - Busby you better raise holy hell.
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 10:46 PM
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22. .
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 10:47 PM by BrightKnight
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 12:19 AM
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27. Yes, I read somewhere that FIFTY PERCENT of Calif's voted on Absentee
ballots--many likely because they DON'T TRUST THE MACHINES. I don't have a url for it. I know I read it. The other place I heard a similar statistic was from L.A. elections chief Connie McCormack who said that something like 50% of Los Angeles voters were voting absentee.

So it's entirely possible that HALF the votes have yet to be counted in SD. Who "called" the race? The CA Sec of State? He's a Dieobld shill. The war profiteering corporate news monopolies? They lie. (They falsified their exit polls on Nov. 2, 2004, to force them to fit Diebold's and ES&S's secretly arrived at "results").

Way back when, it is used to be conservative voters who voted absentee--because they were rich and were on vacations to Tahiti, or visiting their second or third homes during the plebian event, and didn't want to mix with the underclass at the polling place. But now, I don't have stats on it, but I would guess that this surge in absentee ballot requests would more likely be savvy Democratic voters who have heard something about Bushite -controlled "trade secret" programming code in the electronic voting systems. Who would be more likely to not trust the machines?

And if it's true, that almost 70,000 votes have yet to be counted, HOW DARE ANYONE call this election?

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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 11:07 PM
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32. 40%.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 12:00 PM
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29. Kick
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 03:24 PM
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30. Diebold stikes again. What can we do about this?
n/t
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 11:59 PM
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33. K&R n/t
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