Nick Berg's father on CNN

saying that Zarqawi's death will do nothing. Naming dubby as top terrorist.
Sorry I caught it late and don't have the quotes perfect.
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As a distraction from Abu Ghraib.


It sure as hell wasn't one-leg. The video of one-leg from a while back shows him a good 30lbs heavier than the one that killed Nick Berg.


Oh yeah, and the guy that killed Nick Berg had TWO legs.

Nick Berg had strange connections to the terrorists, and his death seemed too perfectly timed.

The tennis shoes size 16 and gold chains and stuff.
Nick was used for propaganda and I'm glad his dad is bold enough to tell it like it is.

I couldn't agree more. Setup, false flag, whatever you wish to label it. It stinks for sure.

Where is it from, or did you come up with it?

So it was the CIA and the Military Intelligence machine that killed an american citizen for cynical political gain. I dont think any person on either organization is dishonorable enough to follow that order even if it did come from the President.

Unless you think that Negroponte and Bush were down there standing behind Berg themselves.

Geez!


Think for a min.



DEATH SQUADS


Go back and look at all of the crap surrounding his death and the coincidences surrounding his time in Oklahoma, I believe it was, and why he was even in Iraq to begin with.


That whole incident just smells of propaganda and cover-up.

that could be an interesting conversation/debate... if you want to contend that.

...followed orders at Belsen and Auschwitz, again at My Lai. The Men on the Ground dropped the bombs and fired the guns that killed 3,000+ innocent Panamanian citizens just so GHWB could bag Noriega. The Men on the Ground mined the harbors of Nicaragua. The Men on the Ground trained Battalion 3-16 to execute the most horrible acts of torture and terror in Honduras and elsewhere. The Men on the Ground oversaw the building of El Aguacate air base, the torture and detention center and staging area for the illegal Contras raiding Nicaragua, the Men on the Ground unleashed the dogs and fecal matter at Abu Graib, committed atrocities and war crimes at Falluja, murdered innocent men, women, and children at Haditha, the Men on the Ground conducted extraordinary rendition of human beings to black prisons where they could be tortured as a means to terrorize insurgent populations from which they were snatched. The Men on the Ground guard 14 year old "terrorists" at Guantanamo. There's so much these Men on the Ground won't do.

On edit: I goofed: This was supposed to be a response to postr #6, by Sailor for Warner, who says:

Riiight

So it was the CIA and the Military Intelligence machine that killed an american citizen for cynical political gain. I dont think any person on either organization is dishonorable enough to follow that order even if it did come from the President.

Don't be surprised what you learn in the future.
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"It will help discredit Bin Laden-ism."

"Yes, you kill one man, but you save 000's and help win the war."

"Orders came right from the top, son, we're just doing our job."

"Look, Berg's a no-good peacenik's son. The FBI arrested for being up to no good. They only let him out this morning coz his unpatriotic family were making a fuss."

"Are you gonna do it, or do we have to get someone else to?"

"Next time one of our boys gets blown up, are you gonna stand there and think 'I could've done something'?"

I am just not cynical or sad apparently. I have served my country for a long time and still dont think I could ever be that jaded.

would act upon the orders of the president for political gain. And he's not especially cynical, either. However, he worked in the "spy" field during his time served and probably knows some pretty hairy stuff that he can never tell me or anyone else.

I think you should do some research into past political/military actions before you make the statement that you don't believe it could or would be done.

Welcome to DU, btw. I hope to change your opinion about your choice of candidate, there, just so you know. :)

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just like in the real world.

You'll learn.

Im just about done with him though. He turned me of for a number of reasons that ill talk about on another board, another time.

Perhaps I should have said, spooks, too, see themselves as part of the 1% that protects the 98% from the other 1%.

And unlike your Service, usually the dangers they face are moral rather than physical.

Welcome to DU! :party:

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who will do anything for their lord savior George Bush.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

PUHLEEEEEEEZE! Don't make me laugh! OPEN YOUR EYES!

I don't see a need to go the tinfoil route to the prove U.S. govt. displayed heinous behavior in the matter.

Even if it were ever proved (most likely it will not) that Zarquawi was not the knife man, to automatically make the knee-jerk jump to "it must have been a U.S. black op, why look at them helicopters" I find patently silly. Like there weren't plenty of crazy bastards running around kidnapping westerners and killing them. No. Couldn't a been one of them now could it? :crazy:

*Hugs Veganistan*

There are lots of people here who are so angry and hurt they see the evil hand of Bush in every single unfortunate event. Sometime their passion blinds them to the laws of probability. Some days DU is practically wrapped up like a baked potato on the coals in tinfoil. I usually choose to take a break on those days. Today may be one of those days. Once was the time I wasted significant parts of my precious days pouring over the details, asking questions and debating points. I discovered quickly some people NEED to believe in conspiracies, and no amount of logic or reason will penetrate that need.

and I can be accused of following conspiracies, but the propaganda derived from this episode is still paying off.

Caller to C-spn just this morning mentioned the beheading of our guys.
Apparently a few beheadings allow us to trash all of Iraq.
And besides that, the Geneva Conventions have been left on the ash heap, so all is fair in war and love.

Edit for coherence.
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It seems to me, the ones doing the beheading ARE NOT Iraqis, ME terrorists or Muslims. Black Ops anyone? Blackwater anyone?

He appeared dead before the act took place.
The righties are flapping about beheadings everyday. How many are we actually talking about? Anyone know?
They act like it is a daily occurrence.

Nick Berg's killing was by the US and his Father knows it.

It was FANTASTIC! Can't wait for the transcript.

Solidad: At some point you must have experienced a moment of "I'm glad the man who killed my son is dead."

Berg: NO! Absolutely NOT.

He stuffed her words right back at her.

He compared Bush to Zarqawi....I bout fell off my chair. He did a great job, making the comparisons of Saddam and Bush.....OMG...he was good..It shut Solidad right down..she was speechless, then he hung up on her when she thanked him for being on....he left the room...hahaha

She was torn to bits. Good for Mike Berg - a human being who speaks the truth and values life.

I believe that I heard he was "running for something" as a GREEN.

Can anyone here please enlighten me?

I heard today.
:)

agenda, like so many of them. She's sometimes quite effective if not very subtle at manipulating a guest to parrot her neo-con world views and opinions. She's not stupid, but she's not a good person and a terrible "reporter".

before dubby started his war.
I wish Michael Berg could be heard more and his son's death be investigated and the staged murder.

He clearly surprised her in that he was willing to congratulate W.

Biden was next and he basically said that this will make no difference. "I hope I am wrong but in two weeks you will be talking about people being pulled off of buses ...."

He wanted to know why it was better that George Bush was king of Iraq instead of Saddam Hussein.

He wanted to know why it was better that George Bush was king of Iraq instead of Saddam Hussein.

Great question.

Pretty perceptive way to boil the whole thing down.

This won't bring his son back. I had forgotten all the strange circumstances of his death until just now.

and walls that looked like Abu Ghraib. The fact that the henchmen looked like westerners, jewelry and all... And Berg supposedly had been working outside of Abu Ghraib.

Many happenings within THAT video were disturbing to me and it's not just about the violence. :thumbsdown:

'Iraq is not better off under Bush than it was Sadaam. More people are being killed and there is more chaos.' (not a direct quote but close).

Nick Berg's dad is right.

It is so rare for me to garner 5.
It will make my day.
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"I'm glad he's dead".

Saw the other Joementum on NBC this morning and he was giddy with the prospect that we'd killed someone else.

Look, if Zarqari is real and not a figment of Psy-Ops imagination, then I'm certainly not going to mourn his death, but I'm not going to pump my fist in the air and shout, "Hooray!" either.

she always tries to put words in the guest mouth. She talks too damn much! Don't write back telling me that I can't say this because she is a woman. I am a woman and she has a big damn mouth and she is a little arrogant bitch. She is the reason I can't watch cnn for long and add rush limbaughs women. That soledad bitch use to be a television anchor in my state and she worse now than ever. The Arrogant know it all bitch!

Here:

http://www.webloggin.com/podcasts/berg.mp3

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for his entire presidency. It just looks bad to me.

Mr. Bush, you could have gave yourself away with that phrasing

you could have gave some more thought to the irony of your statement about using the death of a single terrist for political gain

has your administration uttered ONE SINGLE statement during its illegal existence that was NOT intended to further its political agenda?

thanks for trying to express yourself without using an earpiece for a change, though

it's hard work, isn't it?

I suppose you believe Cindy Sheehan is also using her son's death merely to garner attention. :eyes:

Excuse me? :wtf:

What do you think about an illegal war and 9/11 being used by this administration for political gain and as a political tool? That looks bad to me.

I think Mr. Berg would gladly trade any "political career" for having his son alive.... :eyes:

:yourock:

Peace to you, Mr. Berg

You can't, unfortunately, kill guys in masks claiming to be Zarqawi.