Nick Berg's father on CNN: "Impeach George Bush today."

Just broadcast on CNN.

When asked if the death of Zarqawi gave him a sense of relief or satisfaction because Zarqawi would no longer be able to kill any one else or bring suffering to other families like his, Michael Berg said no and "...and as far as the suffering of other families, I think that we could prevent the suffering of far more families if we would impeach George Bush today and end this war today."

WOW...

No link yet..this was just broadcast as "breaking news."

Thank You. :cry:

He's faced the worst nightmare a parent can. Condolences, Mr. Berg, and we are behind you. Not because you meet our agenda, but because the pain you feel is what we have been hoping to prevent all along.

:cry:

a true :patriot:

go Mr. Berg!!

But Michael Berg is running as a Green for the At-large Congressional seat in Delaware.

I'll say no more as I don't wanna get in trouble :hide:

Thanks for the addendum to what CNN left out in their "reporting."

The main problem with the corporate media is that they conveniently omit important information so that Americans don't get all the facts when making an important decision.

...candidate

I hear that doesn't endear you to the mods here :yoiks:

actually challenge Mike Castle.

I know people who know Jack Markell here in Delaware who happens to be state treasurer and pretty popular in Delaware too. I keep asking them why won't Jack run against Mike Castle because he would be an actual threat and give us a chance to get the seat. But Jack doesn't run so we're stuck with some unheard of democrat who if they're lucky they'll get 35% of the vote.

Mind you if Spivak, the democrat who is running, can show he has the numbers to really challenge Castle then without a doubt I'll vote for him. But I like Michael Berg and figure I have nothing really to lose and worst case I'll be stuck with a moderate pro-choice, pro-environment republican that I think we could get to help stop the war if we had a real vote on the floor about it

Nick Berg's dad was strongly antiwar even before his son's death, IIRC

..according to the anchor.

"When asked if the death of Zarqawi gave him a sense of relief or satisfaction because Zarqawi would no longer be able to kill any one else "

WTF? Weren't we all just laughing at how Zarqawi couldn't handle a Kalashnikov, and wore white track shoes? I doubt he personally killed anyone.

That is really funny. Sad. Funny. What a stupid question.

...when he gave an answer they were not fishing for.

about knowing the killer of his son was killed in action partially related to the killing of his son. I can understand still being against the war and wanting us out pronto. I am not going to say he is wrong for his stance, but I don't understand.

I still remember the gurgling sound after watching the tape only once when it first came out.

Maybe someone could explain it to me. Maybe its not explainable to someone like me.

I think his anger is directed toward the man whose actions sent him there, not the leader of the resistance.

If a person sent my daughter across the street to go to the store for something that he/she knew probably wasn't there, knew the street was busy and there were no crosswalks. Knew that many had died trying to cross that street. Knew he/she had the power to phone the store to verify wheither they had it in stock. She died trying to cross because he/she wouldn't pay for a helmet for her in her attempt to cross and insisted she cross at night in dark clothes.

Do I blame the store owner for not stocking the item. Do I blame the car that struck her? Do I blame the person who sent her?

You decide.

but thank you for the analogy, I do see your point.

But I know that for myself, violence doesn't answer violence, it only increases it. To make the fatuous statement that Bush made about this (that justice had been delivered to Al-Zarqawi) is to buy into a tired and useless paradigm, that an eye must be exacted for an eye, and a tooth must be exacted for a tooth. In fact, Bush's alleged favorite philosopher said quite the contrary: "But I say to you, pray for those who persecute you; pray and do not seek revenge."

Now, whether Mr. Berg believes that, I don't know. But if George W. Bush really does believe in the words of his favorite philosopher, he really needs to adjust his public pronouncements, because his statement today is totally antichrist. Again.

I'm not a christian, but I thanks for the jesus quotes. I can see why a christian might take solice in those words.

If he believes that Zarqawi wasn't involved in the killing of his son, then there is not much to his finding no satisfaction from his killing.

if he does, then his stance is difficult for me to understand.

If his son had been murdered in a dark alley by a man wanting his wallet, he'd focus it all on the killer. But his son was murdered by a man who himself was stuck in world where life had been made meaningless. Al-Zarqawi wasn't trying to steal a wallet, he was trying--and I'm not saying this to praise him--to defend his homeland. The murder wasn't because of greed or petty impulse, it was because of the endless violence the Iraq invasion created in the region.

So Michael Berg blames the war for his son's death, and for the deaths of thousands. And now one more death--even the death of the man whose hand may have slain his son--is just one more death in a bloody war that should have never been. While I can't imagine he feels any sympathy for Al-Zarqawi, he may just see Al-Zarqawi as another victim of the real evil that murdered his son. I mean the war, more than Bush, but the war was started by Bush.

I really don't see him as a freedom fighter. He's a Jordanian who was convicted for plotting to blow up Jordanian goven for not being muslim enough if I recall correctly.

In the tape, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi allegedly says that the beheading is in retaliation for the prison abuse. No one, at least that we know, lost their head literally in prison.


But thanks.

The prison abuse did lead to several deaths. We don't know how many because I don't think they've released that info, but there were clearly pictures of people who had been beaten or tortured to death. Beheading is a traditional Islamic punishment for murder, so that's what Zarqawi was doing--executing an American for what he perceived to be America's murders.

Don't take that too far. I'm not defending him. I'm just trying to put things in his perspective, not to exonerate Zarqawi, but just to explain him. I don't see him as a freedom fighter, either. He was a bloody, violent man who may have been that way no matter what world he was cast into. But those types of people emerge in war. During the French Resistance in WW II people were murdered at roadside diners for their association with Nazis. That's what happens in a war. So the bottom line is that Nick Berg wouldn't have been murdered if Bush hadn't started this war. Now, a person who agrees with the war may see anyone fighting us as bad guys, but someone who does not believe in the war--like Berg's father--will see the war as responsible for the death. It created a climate of violence and death, and in such a climate, these things happen. We killed a lot of innocent people based on nothing, so they kill us in retaliation. If there were no war, there would have been no beheading of Nick Berg. If you believe the war was wrong in the first place, that's how you will see it. Zarqawi is just one of the tools of this bloody situation.

Please don't take any of that as a defense of Zarqawi. I'm just answering your original post, as to how Michael Berg is reacting to Zarqawi's death.

(Edited for clarity).

by murder victims' families who are AGAINST the death penalty.

It takes a strong character and soul to realize spilling of more blood in answer to a killing is not a good thing, and not something to be celebrated or exploited.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=574&scid=62

"Dignity Denied: The Experience of Murder Victims' Family Members Who Oppose the Death Penalty"
A report released by Murder Victims' Families for Reconciliation provides an account of the experiences of murder victims' family members who oppose capital punishment and steps that can be taken to protect these individuals from discrimination based on this opposition. "Dignity Denied" challenges lawmakers, the federal government's Office of Victims of Crime, and leaders within the victims' services community to address past and current discrimination and commit to equitable treatment of survivors of homicide victims. Specifically, the report offers model legislation and recommends that victims' rights laws be amended to ban unequal treatment based upon a victim's position on the death penalty. It also states that victims' services should be administered independently, not as part of the prosecutor's office, and that leaders in the victims' services community should develop protocols for serving victims' families who oppose the death penalty.

I guess I don't have a strong character or soul.

When one is beheaded, copius amounts of blood are let. There was no blood in the fake video.

thank you.

Doesn't seem as if it's the same interview, though.

Edit: grammar

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1380705&mesg_id=1380705

I saw him say it on MSNBC... couldn't help but smile!

...I wanted to see it but I had to go to work.

And I already had a pretty good idea of what he would say........thanks for posting it.

asked of him. I'm sure he would have rather remained anonymous, and not suffered the loss he did.

But my sincere appreciation goes to Mr. Berg for stating on air what most of America feels. God bless him and his family, and I hope what he stated today comes true. That would truly be a good day for America.

Coulter jump all over his statement, esp with her recent lambash of 911 family's

The news anchor seemed displeased and quickly said something to the effect of "Mr. Berg, clearly not seeking peace in this."

The media whores are trying hard to spin this as a plus for George and to get his poll numbers up.

All I could thing of was how attacks will increase. what are these guys gonna do? Say "oh gosh, it's all over now, let's pack it in."

And at any rate, 90% of the insurgency are just regular Iraqi's. not an Al Qaida branch.

As Mr. Berg said, we need to get out of Iraq.

No thinking American will have a sense of "peace" as long as we are continuing this outrageous, illegal war.

if anything, they have more reason to hate us, especially since at least one woman and one child were among the bombing victims.

with Mr. Berg will be archived here shortly.

http://www.here-now.org/shows/2006/06/20060608_2.asp

It is quite moving and worth a listen IMHO.

He is an extraordinarily spiritual human being.

:kick:

..time (I have rewind capabilities on my cable box) and replayed it while I transcribed his remarks. He did say this.

..the one they first played was outside. The later ones showed him indoors with a campaign poster in the background. The one I transcribed was the 1st one where he was standing outdoors. I haven't seen it replayed all day.

Buzzflash mentions that he was interveiwed several times by CNN but in the first one he was cutoff just as he was calling for Bush's impeachment. This is the one I posted about. They cut him immediately after he said "...impeach Bush today." The anchor looked distressed.

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/06/06/con06232.html

and take him out?

Nick Berg's father has a right to say anything he wants...but..

Maybe its just that I find pacifists utterly foolish anyway, but in my view, Michael Berg comes off as some sort of stereotypical left fringe nut. I am glad he is running as a Green and not as a Democrat. I would not want this guy to in any way, shape or form be representing the Democratic Party on national TV.

I suspect the vast majority of Americans who see that clip are going to think he is a loon.

Nick Berg, would be alive if it weren't for bush and his cohorts in crime.