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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:32 PM
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NYers can't tell Hillary's and Bush's Iraq positions apart.
http://www.observer.com/20060612/20060612_Jason_Horowitz_pageone_coverstory1.asp

Of the New Yorkers in Washington today who voted to authorize the President’s invasion of Iraq, the most prominent one to have gone through a similarly frank and public self-evaluation <like RFK in 1968> is not Hillary Clinton, and not Charles Schumer.

Try Anthony Weiner.

“Bring our troops home immediately,” Mr. Weiner now says. “Now we must remove them and force the Iraqi population to make some hard choices.”

Mrs. Clinton, for her part, continues to articulate a plan that is difficult to distinguish from that of the White House, and she barely mentioned Iraq in an otherwise wide-ranging address this week at the state Democratic convention. And the normally voluble Mr. Schumer has hardly been heard from on the subject.

Even the New Yorkers who voted against the war are feeling not so much vindication as subdued relief.

“Those of us who did not vote for the war are eternally grateful for that and sleep a lot better at night,” said Representative Louise Slaughter. “And we can face our constituents.”

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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:39 PM
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1. Hell, I can't tell the difference either.
Whatever else Hillary is: policy wonk, advocate for children, effective senator, etc., etc., she's TOO DAMN CAUTIOUS. Too willing to submerge principle in ambition. She takes the Bill Clinton message too far.

I do think she could win the presidency, but I'm far from sure I want her to.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:27 AM
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6. She'll have a hard time getting people passionate about her
in the way she wants. She already has a built-in crowd of people who passionately loath her.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:40 PM
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2. I heart Representative Slaughter.
:patriot:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 10:05 AM
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7. In which the capitalization of a letter averts a visit from the FBI. -nt
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:40 PM
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3. I would love to vote for a woman for president
But I just couldn't vote for Hillary today.

I did listen to Caroline Kennedy with Jon Stewart on Monday and I think if she ran against Hillary in New York, a New York Kennedy would wake New York back up, and she could even use her own father's rhetoric word for word and it would apply to everything we face today as a nation.

Fantasy world, I know - but we also need charisma and charm AND a little of that old nobility, plus someone who isn't afraid at all to stand up for what's right.

Why is that so hard for these people who claim to be democrats?

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:13 AM
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5. I was impressed with Carolyn as well.
It's a nice fantasy. Alas...

:evilfrown:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:43 PM
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4. K&R
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