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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 09:47 PM
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The Short, Violent Life of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (Atlantic Monthly)
Thanks go to Nordic who posted this in another thread. I strongly feel this needs its own thread.


http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200607/zarqawi?ca=9hloQUJamUfhaPsPg%2B9E5USZvqSqBDKyXpAE9U9Gsng%3D

At least five times, in 2000 and 2001, bin Laden called al-Zarqawi to come
to Kandahar and pay bayat-take an oath of allegiance-to him. Each time,
al-Zarqawi refused. Under no circumstances did he want to become involved in
the battle between the Northern Alliance and the Taliban. He also did not
believe that either bin Laden or the Taliban was serious enough about jihad.

...

"Even then-and even more so now-Zarqawi was not the main force in the
insurgency," the former Jordanian intelligence official, who has studied
al-Zarqawi for a decade, told me. "To establish himself, he carried out the
Muhammad Hakim operation, and the attack against the UN. Both of them gained
a lot of support for him-with the tribes, with Saddam's army and other
remnants of his regime. They made Zarqawi the symbol of the resistance in
Iraq, but not the leader. And he never has been."

He continued, "The Americans have been patently stupid in all of this.
They've blown Zarqawi so out of proportion that, of course, his prestige has
grown. And as a result, sleeper cells from all over Europe are coming to
join him now." He paused for a moment, then said, "Your government is
creating a self-fulfilling prophecy."

Western and Israeli diplomats to whom I spoke shared this view-and this
past April, The Washington Post reported on Pentagon documents that detailed
a U.S. military propaganda campaign to inflate al-Zarqawi's importance.
Then, the following month, the military appeared to attempt to reverse field
and portray al-Zarqawi as an incompetent who could not even handle a gun.
But by then his image in the Muslim world was set.


I STRONGLY urge everyone to read the ENTIRE article. So much in there that just rips the White House propaganda to shreds and shows that "Zarqawi" wanted to fight the "near-enemy" instead of the "far-enemy", as did bin Laden. "Near enemy" referring to "infidels" and non-Islamists in their own countries and "far enemy" referring to the US and Israel. Well, at least until the neocons got their way and the US invaded Iraq.

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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:27 PM
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1. Supports the argument that Al Qaeda "martyr'd" Zarqawi...
Excellent read. Kicked and Rec'd.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 10:35 PM
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2. As an article posted up here in another thread mentioned. And...
that means the US military would still be "on the hunt" if it weren't for "Al Qaeda" giving up the ghost.

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 06:00 AM
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3. Kick for a great article!
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 06:47 AM
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4. Now, who's the real tin foil hatter? Excellent read!
This is the best investigative article I've read on the actual life of the person behind the al Zarqawi myth.

After reading this article I can safely say that if you believe the official media portrait -- mastermind terrorist, deputy of bin Laden, beheader of Nick Berg, etc -- then you are the tin foil hatter.

If you have a healthy skepticism about the identity and role of the Zarqawi figure, then you are part of the reality based community.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 07:35 AM
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5. Zarqawi's violent actions make sense in light of his association w/Azzam
Have you ever seen The Power of Nightmares?

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 03:00 PM
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6. One last kick
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 03:59 PM
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7. You're right...the article deserves attention.
Very interesting read and cause for purchasing this issue of the "Atlantic". Funny the way she states things like "until his death" even tho that just happened two days ago...gave me a time warp feeling.

Everyone should read it, if not the whole thing to gain an understanding of why he took the path he chose, then the last page, which explains his significance and effectiveness, as opposed to that of al-Qaeda.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:26 PM
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8. HERE'S your 5th vote Roland99, your OPs are so good I K&R before reading
now I can sit back and enjoy some good copy, thanks.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:38 PM
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11. .
:thumbsup:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:31 PM
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9. this article contained here: we had three chances to kill Zarqawi
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:37 PM
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10. Not only could have had him but made him bigger than life in the process
Double whammy.


Heckuva job, George!

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