US doubts on Iraq hit high before Zarqawi death-poll - Another coincidence

NNN0LHI

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Fri Jun-09-06 11:43 AM
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US doubts on Iraq hit high before Zarqawi death-poll - Another coincidence

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N0998635.htm

WASHINGTON, June 9 (Reuters) - American public doubts over the Iraq war reached a new high in the days before the killing of Iraqi insurgent leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a poll taken this week showed.

The Associated Press-Ipsos poll found that 59 percent of the public believed the decision to invade Iraq in 2003 was a mistake, 10 percentage points more than a December 2005 poll and the highest level yet. Approval of U.S. President George W. Bush's handling of the war reached a new low of 33 percent, down 4 points from May.

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SteppingRazor

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Fri Jun-09-06 11:49 AM
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1. But the poll was taken Mon-Wed...

which means results of it weren't known until after Zarqawi died. Hence, Zarqawi's death couldn't have been promulgated on the low point of the war's unpopularity.

Besides which, other recent polls mostly have slight upticks in Bush's approval ratings from the time right before Zarqawi died.

Anyway, it's interesting, but because of all that, I don't see a connection.

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NNN0LHI

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Fri Jun-09-06 11:52 AM
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2. You didn't know the Repugs do their own internal polling?

I'll be damned. I thought everyone knew that?

The WH was well aware support for their occupation was eroding without needing this poll.

Don

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SteppingRazor

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Fri Jun-09-06 11:58 AM
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5. Of course they do their own internal polling...

almost all of which skews in favor of their views -- Rove has often said he trusts only their polls as a defense for dismissing polls highlighting the president's unpopularity. Thus, internal WH or GOP polls are hardly likely to give the same, spectacularly unpopular results as independent ones, again giving amiss to the theory that Zarqawi was blown up because Bush needed to rally the flagsuckers.

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NNN0LHI

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Fri Jun-09-06 12:05 PM
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7. Why would the WH skew the results for a poll the public never sees?

I don't understand the reasoning behind doing such a thing?

Might as well not do the polling if they are fudging it. It would seem kind of meaningless.

I must be missing something here?

Don

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liberal N proud

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Fri Jun-09-06 11:53 AM
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3. The coincidence it that Zarqawi died now

They have had other chances, but they need his death NOW because of the waning support for the war.

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The Magistrate

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Fri Jun-09-06 11:57 AM
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4. It Is Not Going To Alter Anything, Sir

This man's death will have no effect on the casualty figures, and any attempt to claim this is a "turning point" will be proved out false with weeks. The result will be an even greater decrease in support for the occupation, rooted in the growing conviction among the populace that the thing is being handled incompetently and cannot possibly succeed, which will only be reinforced by the contrast between touting of this event and its readily evident lack of consequence.

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SteppingRazor

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Fri Jun-09-06 12:00 PM
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6. Agreed. Additionally...

if you concede that Bush's people are smart enoguh to realize this (and even if Bush isn't, he sure as hell has people who are), you have to concede that killing Zarqawi now to bolster the war's popularity would be seen as a futile notion, even by the people around the president.

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The Magistrate

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Fri Jun-09-06 12:19 PM
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8. Indeed, Sir

It is worth pointing out that this is the sort of back-blast natural to the artificial attempt to pump him up as a personification of the resistance itself: the degree to which that propaganda campaign in fact succeeded will be matched precisely by the recoil of greater conviction the effort in Iraq is futile when his elimination has no descernable benefit to the situation.

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Fri Jun-09-06 12:53 PM
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9. Osama should be the MAIN worry here...

They'll trot his dead body out just in time for the November elections.
Sick bastards...

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NNN0LHI

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Fri Jun-09-06 12:56 PM
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10. Will it be the fat Osama or the skinny Osama though?

That is the question here.

Don

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KoKo

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Fri Jun-09-06 02:53 PM
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11. The "Stand In's" are groomed and ready...along with the script

:D... Or one of Rummy's "Q" (ala Bond) toys has found a way to raise from the dead or frozen.

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