Lets say that they bombed his safehouse and he was still alive when they found him and had him in custody. Would it be ok if they just shot him right there? Is that moral/legal? Would he be a prisoner of war before being shot?

Might not be "right" but, you know what?? You STOMP on dangerous creatures when you get the chance. Kill them before they kill you. He was a waste of oxygen, a terrorist, targeting innocent people. He didn't deserve to live.

Here is what you said:

"You STOMP on dangerous creatures when you get the chance. Kill them before they kill you."

Would you apply that concept to the current powers??? And you know of whom I speak.

...may one day be turned against us.

PB

Are you Agent Mike?

If so, I plead the Fifth. That's a part of the Constitution y'all haven't managed to shred, lately...since so many of your own boys seem to NEED that one!!

Read into THAT whatever you like.

So we've got this Nick Berg guy captive, should we just behead him now?

Dead men tell no tales.

What if he decided to go out suicide bomber-style when the troops came in to retrieve him?

The Supreme Law of the Land is defined in the Constitution as the Constitution, itself. Treaties, like The Geneva Convention(s) become part of this supreme canon of law, an important distinction not to be overlooked.



Because of this it would be unConstitutional to execute a prisoner of war in this fashion.

PB

you identify him as "an enemy combatant."

Sorry, but there are times when you just STOMP on a dangerous creature when you get the chance, and to hell with it.

It's a precedent you don't want to set or condone. It can easily turned against us.

PB

don't matter, this government will do anything necessary to perpetuate itself, including turning on it's own citizens. Of that I have no doubt.

Fact is...we are already there.

He's worth a lot more alive than dead, IMO. I doubt he would be worth much as far as getting other terrorists, but for insight into how they do things, where they gather, how they get equipment and money...he would be a goldmine.

I'm sure BushCo doesn't want another trial like the Saddam one.

Hell, they don't like American judges and courts. Do you think they would trust/like an Iraqi court?

No way.

...but I certainly wouldn't put it past them.

PB

is he putting up resistance? I find it hard to believe he'd give himself up, under any curcumstances short of being unconcious.

in the Overall picture this is just another use of the God-Ordained Power afforded to the State. Which has been turned on americans in the past as well as innocent peoples, think Ludlow 1914, Wounded Knee 1890, The Bonus Army 1932 and more...

Zarqawi was not a Freedom Fighter (although he did do stuff to piss of the Jordanian Government) he was a killer. The argument on whether or not we had a hand in his creation or power is for another debate. Ignoring conspiracy theories of him being "Our Guy" in Iraq.

The State would argue they have no imperative to capture him instead of killing him. But, this is what a strong Federal Government is going to do for you. It will ignore "Rules of War" because the most important thing to a State is the continued existance of the State. You (the citizen) are either a plus a zero or a minus in the State's ledger.

So, the true issue is whether the people can unring the bell of Imperalism. Over the last 225 years Imperalism has won and continues to strangle the opposition.

I want to see ALL these fuckers, all the crazy fundamentalist bombers, all the crazy neocon politicians, all the corrupt corporate scumbags, ALL OF EM

TRIED AND CONVICTED AND SENT TO JAIL FOREVER

My humble request.

...it's probably much better to take him alive for many reasons. here are just a few:

1) by killing him he becomes a martyr and his followers come back 10 times harder and more violent against the "infidels".

2) by imprisoning him and showing photos of him in the orange jumpsuit in jail he's less of a hero to potential terrorists. instead he just looks like another criminal.

3) by keeping him alive there's always the hope he will be a source of information used to identify real terror cells in the future.