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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:39 PM
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Do you think even a rat would have survived this thing?
How about a dog? How about a horse? how about an elephant? zebra? a fox? a kitchen table? a big screen TV?

How about Al Zarqawi?

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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:40 PM
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1. Yes. (to all of the above)
Edited on Fri Jun-09-06 12:41 PM by rpgamerd00d
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:42 PM
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2. Was Zarqawi at ground zero?
Do we know exactly where his body was found?

I ask because I doubt there would be an ounce of flesh remaining after two 500 lb. bombs (Mk 82s) landed on Zarqawi's lap.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:44 PM
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3. Look at the picture...It is cumbled to the individual brick level...
There is nothing that is not destroyed...
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:45 PM
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4. Yep. And I wonder why no one questions that photo?
Yet they question the Zarqawi photos....
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freexone Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:48 PM
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5. questions
I question the fact that they showed a bloated head and shoulders that had a few drops of blood here and there,
some smearing on the cheek. Yet this damage looks as if he should have been blown to pieces or at the very least crushed.
Anything coming out of Washington is more than likely a lie anyway....hell, I don't believe half of the 9/11 story still!
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:50 PM
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6. Question this:
Edited on Fri Jun-09-06 12:52 PM by rpgamerd00d


Why is the rag in the foreground not burned?
Why is a cement cinderblock intact?
Why is the foliage behind the rubble pristene?

Clearly, the bomb was concussive, not incendiary, and the building was strongly constructed.
If the tree right next to the house is unscathed, how can you possibly disbelieve that a person could be physically unscathed but still dead from the concussive blast?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:51 PM
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7. This is what (I assume) they used to kill Zarqawi:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_82_bomb

If it was a direct hit, then I doubt there would be much left besides crushed, charred bones.

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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:53 PM
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8. Actually, read this:
WASHINGTON (AP) - Of the two bombs that flattened the safe house in which terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed, the first to strike was a type the Air Force has used for 30 years.

The second was a new weapon whose first use in combat was in October 2004 against - coincidentally - a building in Iraq said by the U.S. military to be hosting a "confirmed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi terrorist meeting."

This time they got it right. An F-16C Fighting Falcon jet dropped both bombs - first a 500-pounder known as a GBU-12, guided to its target by a laser designator. It has been in use since 1976, mainly as an anti-armor weapon.

The second was a GBU-38, a relatively lightweight bomb guided to its target by satellite signal. F-16s based at Balad, just north of the area where Zarqawi's safe house was attacked, have been operating with the GBU-38 for less than two years. Its smaller explosive power is designed to limit unintended damage.

http://home.bellsouth.net/s/editorial.dll?pnum=1&bfromind=2219&eeid=4972586&_sitecat=1505&dcatid=0&eetype=article&render=y&ac=-2&ck=&ch=ne&rg=blsadstrgt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:57 PM
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9. Thanks... the GBU-38 is based on 500-lb Mk 82
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:04 PM
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11. The human body is surprisingly well put together.
It doesn't explode into limbs like you see in movies or video games. Not that bombs can't tear a body apart, but a brick building is put together with mortar, which forms expected weak points where it will collapse. A body is more likely to be thrown and crushed than blown apart if it's anywhere away from the epicenter of a blast.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:09 PM
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14. Depends on the bomb, fuse, and charge.
Some bombs incinerate, some crush then incinerate, some just throw everything up into the air, etc.

The face plastered all over the TV looks pretty well intact after having two 500 lb. bombs dropped on it.

I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I have some doubt, especially since we have been lied to repeatedly by the ones telling the story.


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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:11 PM
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15. Wouldn't his skull be crushed...
right along with the rest of him?

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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:13 PM
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17. Yes but what is stronger the brick or your flesh?
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:14 PM
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18. Flesh, actually.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:58 PM
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10. Hey, he died 8 times before...so he could withstand 2 huge bombs
The ruins sure do look like a treasure trove of information too in the war on terra...
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:08 PM
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12. Who?
:sarcasm:
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:12 PM
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16. Yeah... who?
Did we finally get Bin Laden? What's all the hubbub?
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:09 PM
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13. People survived the Hiroshima and Nagasaki blasts.. So yes...
Edited on Fri Jun-09-06 01:14 PM by Beelzebud
Don't try to play armchair ballistics expert. It doesn't work.

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:34 PM
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20. I am by no means playing expert, but....
I don't think the survivors of Nagasaki and Hiroshima were directly under the impact of the bombs, plus many of them had severe burns all over their bodies.
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:33 PM
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19. We were fighting Superman. Kryptonite finally got him. How else
to justify 1 trillion dollars lining your cronies' pockets?
War is a big moneymaker. Imagine if a war could be ended at the cost of a single bullet.
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