Patriot Act even covers purchasing of a new car!

Today, at the car dealership, we were "required by Federal law" to provide
our drivers' license numbers, our SSN's, the name address and phone number
of two relatives, and then sign the form attesting that all the statements
were true.

The salesman said it had to do with potential money laundering by terrorists.

I can't believe what Bush has managed to accomplish in just six years. I hope
to God that when the Democrats are running things, we can get most of this
bullshit repealed.

America, Land of the Free...my ass.

You can find a picture of the Idiot Son to fit most any occasion here:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushpictures.htm

this is serious business.....

but good grief...we have lived in the same home for over 18 years,
worked the same jobs for 15+ years. Hell, neither the husband or I
could run fast enough to get away from a bomb, once we planted
it, assuming we could pick one up at Bombs R Us to begin with.

DEA

and we didn't have to sign anything three years ago, when we
purchased another car.

The reporting requirement has been goin on since the 80's

If you paid over ten grand cash and the dealer didn't do the paper work, he may have been in violation of federal law. The ten grand cash cap where reporting kicked in has been law for some time now.

but how the hell do you launder money by buying a car? :shrug:

Real money used for other things.

Dunno. It all seems silly.

But it doesn't matter in the end. Either by cash or by credit, your entire life (and your previous one) gets scrutinized.

back in the 80's. Some car dealers got into trouble selling several high end cars a day to same parties, for cash! They tried to argue they didn't suspect drug money. Lots of questionable real estate transactions too.

DEA law required any transaction of over $10,000 cash to be subject to collection of the info the OP mentioned, forms sent in to various fed agencies.

Law was enacted WAY before Patriot Act. Back in the 80's actually, ya remember... all that crack in the ghettos, big War On Drugs ramp up... who was in charge back then? :think: Oh, yeah, Reagan, then Bush, same basic cabal, Iran/Contra/Negroponte > drug money to fund Central American black ops. But they wanted to know what Americans were doing with that kinda cash.

I suppose there is more involved now. The junta has used 9-11 as an excuse to see what you buy, what you read in the library and what you do in the bedroom

it is getting fucking ridiculous.

Someone else on DU had the same problem.

who was that?

...because it was out of state. I think that's related. The stupid thing was that I could rent a minivan or an SUV, which had almost as much room with the back seat down, and a better stereo.

one year ago..they needed copies of our driver licenses (and the driver licenses of our sons who are on our savings and checking accounts with pictures).

I was furious!!!!!!! Still am.

I told them they already had copies of this, in order for me to open accounts...yaddayaddayadda...

Very apologetic, and I said, "oh this is coming from Bush, isn't it?"
My husband is 68 and I am 60... and we are about as scarey as being terrorists as Osama!

I hate Bush. I hate Bush. I hate Bush.
I hate America anymore. It used to be fun to live in America.

I think you have a book title here.

I sold a house last year and had to sign a statement that I wasn't a terist. The realtor said it was because of the Patriot Act. True story.

because my daughter and i are on his Cd's so he needs all our info for the dept. homeland security, guess they need to make sure my 11 1/2 year daughter isn't with the terrorists.

will be reported based on the Patriot Act.

I said, "And you need my social security number, why?"

I am a 5'2", caucasian female buying a Honda Fit--out the door for a big $16,000± a few bucks. Terra-ist, right. Laundering money, right.

:grr: