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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:39 PM
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50% of employees 18 to 24 do not plan to stay with their companies
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:41 PM
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1. Uh...I doubt that 95% of them have a choice. nt
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:42 PM
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2. No argument from me on that; the nytimes article is incredibly one-sided.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:46 PM
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3. That really isn't very surprising
Most 18 year old I know, have a hard time understanding the world actually does not revolve around the concept they have meaningful employment and the world really doesn't care who the American Idol is.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 03:42 AM
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11. That's the American "IDLE."
And the faster these "kids" learn that, the better off they'll be.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 08:13 PM
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14. What IS meaningful anymore?
Hard work is NOT valued, those who say it is must be in a really good job.

Mine, as with most, care more about the bottom line. Hard work is not rewarded. Those there long enough are seen as overpaid...

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:47 PM
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4. Like somehow the people are being disloyal to the corporations? Please
... who broke the "lifetime of employment" code first?

Outsourcers. & Deregulators.

If you want to attract workers..then have a good corporate culture. It happens at lots of places.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:54 PM
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6. But house slaves should be loyal...
to their plantation, or what kind of authority will there be! Freedom,
liberty, self determination, no plantations dictating terms?... can't be..
Here in 1846 we demand loyalty from our slaves or what civilization is there!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:41 PM
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7. Sorry - but some people love their jobs. The question is what should
corporations do when they find high turnover? Look at themselves. Many do. It is part of being professional and fostering a good working environment.

I will not even dignify this article with reading it.

Middle class people are not against jobs or loyalty or a chance to move up in an organization. But they hold these as important when they find loyalty back. When they are valued.

Organizations that are transparent and have a good code of conduct and such.. keep their employees. And like any market.. if they lack permanent employees.. they need to adjust things.

It isn't like they are paying a huge amount of taxes. It isn't like nobody goes to war for them or makes sure trade agreements protect their intellectual property rights or property rights.

People want jobs. And they want good jobs. 30 years ago it was a job you would keep forever if you liked it. Now the world is more competative, governments including Clinton's try and foster an environment where American business can do great business. And young people move around to try and find a place where they can stay and make a life. And as you get older you don't like change. So perhaps you are more likely to stay put.

But when they themselves undid the pact..they lost the benefits from that long term relationship. And now that the West is heading into an employees market again..as boomers retire... they want the pact back?

Well - make a new one. Deal with Unions fairly (who in my experience do a great job of management and keeping things on an even keel - so why would you ever want to get rid of that?). Encourage retirement savings.

But I am sorry - if you choose to hire people only part-time.. what can you expect?



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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 02:36 AM
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8. That lifetime employment world that died a generation ago
I love the vision, just never seen it. What i've experienced is corporations
looking at every instant to eliminate the euphemistically phrased "permanent" jobs,
to downsize them, to, no matter how good the house slave is, find a cheaper one,
who will clean the floors too, and the house slaves beat each other up in a race
to the bottom, scrapping for teh one job that won't be outsourced this month.

Have you ever been fired from a job injustly? Did you have any due process,
any recourse? I was once accused of "theft" for loading a software tool i use
in my work, and the bossman thought i was "taking" software from the computer,
when i was putting on a utility to make my job faster and more effective. The
truth was in the administration log, and it was never checked The
price i paid for my go-getting attitude was to have my boss run through the office
screaming that i was there to steal their software and to be fired on the spot
and ushered out of the building by the security gards with my box of things whilst
everyone looked on at me. Only 1 person was friend enough to talk to me when
this happened, the rest cowardly turned away for fear of getting the cooties
from a bad slave... worried that next time it might be them.. and they loved
their jobs, just like i did.

Employers hold a lot of power over your life, more than the police do, more than
the courts do, as without your job, without that paycheck, you may have to move
to a different city, sell up and move on to a place where the next job is.
And now, people are defending the corporation's right to abuse power as if it
were a court of law, when it is nothing of the sort.

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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:53 PM
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5. How many of them are in minimum wage jobs? n/t
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 03:39 AM
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9. This paragraph says it all
"Less employer loyalty is a product of this age group — watching their parents' lives turned upside down by layoffs, downsizings, plant closings," Ms. Anderson of the New School said. "The children of these parents understand that the 'employment contract' that existed only from the end of World War II has been broken."


Many companies and agencies treat employees like interchangeable and disposable commodities rather than valued employees. Therefore people have less motivation to be long-term loyal employees of a particular corporation or agency.

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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 03:41 AM
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10. Precisely, companies need to EARN their employees' loyalty back
Since they are the ones who trashed it in the first place.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:24 PM
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12. Precisely.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:14 PM
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13. Hahahaha.....
By the time they are in their late 30's... 50% of them will be launching attacks against "their" companies.....
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 08:16 PM
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15. that sounds low to me...
Edited on Mon Jun-12-06 08:17 PM by QuestionAll
the only way to get an appreciable increase in pay any more is to switch companies....if you even have that option. but i can't imagine anyone in that age group anticipating lifetime employment with the same company. something like that would just depress the hell out of me.

maybe it's the ritalin talking for them...
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 08:17 PM
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16. It's the only way to get an increase in salary (Job hopping)
Pretty much every major employer here in town (at least re: IT depts) averages 3-4% raises each year.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 01:13 AM
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17. From my own perspective
Who will stay at any job now days . It is all and only about survival and most often nothing else . This was not the case years ago , some people had pride and were valued for their experience . Not anymore , it is too few jobs too many people and jobs of repetitive meaningless garbage . You have the at will clause cramed in your ass now and now are not much more than a slave of a fat man . And you are on high alert waiting to be downsized or outsourced or fired . Just stress .
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