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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:55 AM
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Poll question: Why do donation-based left wing sites bother the RWingnuts so much?
My site, White Rose, and this site, DU seem to be criticized by the RWingnut Repiglicans every time we start a donations drive. They call this "begging for money" and aver that this is proof that nobody really wants our services, and that we are failures. Clearly neither service is a failure; DU has a million and a half main page views every month, and White Rose sends out 6000 GB of audio data every month. So, why does this bother them so much that they are motivated to spin and lie about us?
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:58 AM
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1. Dude, you'd be criticized by the right wing even if you could
cure cancer or raise the dead. As long as you're a liberal, they'll find SOMETHING to hate about you. It doesn't matter what the activity is, if you're a liberal and you're alive to engage in it, then that's a problem for rightists.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:01 AM
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2. Excellent point!
And I think spot on!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:16 AM
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4. Typical liberal response.
:P
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:54 AM
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9. Let's see . . .
no cure for cancer, but . . .

Start paying down the debt, a sticking point for Republicans for over 40 years . . .

Get two warring factions in the Middle East to sit down and start bringing some semblance of peace . . .

Create millions of jobs . . .

Propose a budget that Republicans decry as causing the next Great Depression, therefore they refuse to vote for it, and yet, despite all their expectations, the economy does far better than it did in the "glory years" of that failed actor . . .

Stave off terrorist attacks on U.S. soil by actually stopping and/or tracking terrorists from the foreign lands . . .

Set up FEMA which does its job when disaster strikes . . .

And yet, Repukes say "The BASTARD!!! Impeach him! He told a fib that has absolutely no bearing on anything that happens in this country, so we can run on not being him . . ."
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:09 AM
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3. They believe all available funds should be sent to them...
Their single reason for existing is to get ALL the money on the planet into the hands of Cheney & his cronies.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:19 AM
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5. They are terrified by participatory democracy.
Edited on Sun Jun-11-06 11:20 AM by Warren Stupidity
They have their little system of control that benefits the elites and befuddles enough of the rest of us to keep the system pretending to be a democratic republic. Oh sure their greed has wrecked the economies of our country and much of the rest of the world, pushed the planet into catastrophic climate change, and depleted the oil resources upon which the global economy depends, but the corporate elites have at the same time become wealthy and powerful almost beyond comprehension. The only thing that can upset this little game of theirs, other that a complete collapse of the system, which at this point in time is not exactly unlikely, is for some out of their control popular democratic movement to develop.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:42 AM
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6. stormfront has over 80,000 troopers
and can`t raise money over the net because of server attacks yet they have updated their software. now on the other hand freeper land has fund raisers,an operating budget of 260,000 (according the winne)and as far as i can tell no registered numbers. so my reasoning is that we are way far ahead of the heavy weight right wing sites.better software,fund raising, more involvement in direct political action,and last but not least we care about each other even though we never have meant. there has been alot of humanity expressed in many ways on this board since it`s inception. i think maybe those are the reasons the right wing don`t like our little group....
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:49 AM
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7. Maybe the fuhrer's* great economy has left them broke
and they can't understand why them damn libruls ain't broke also. Could be just website envy too.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:53 AM
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8. is your premise true?
or is it a marketing ploy?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:56 AM
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10. Huh?
Yeah, they say all those things... Go look are FR or LU if you want examples. And the numbers are correct, too.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:58 AM
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12. and a lot of people promote themselves this way
"hey you know those guys we all hate? They hate me and fear me! Buy my stuff! Get back at those guys we all hate!"
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 12:02 PM
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14. Ah, well no marketing ploy here.
I just wonder if I have the RWingnuts figured out or not. Loathing them as I do I'm never sure that I have a good perspective.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:57 AM
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11. They've been led to believe....
that there are only about 12 of us by the RW radio Cretins, so they revel in a chance to "prove" that.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 12:03 PM
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16. Twelve VERY BUSY Liberals here.
That's right, we're all in a boiler room in Dennis Kucinich's basement furiously blogging 24/7, fueled by meth and jolt cola.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:59 AM
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13. When CONsevatives do it, they're showing grass roots support
When liberals do it, they call it "begging for money' and "not being able to survive in the marketrplace."

Just anotehr eample of their hypocricy.
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 12:02 PM
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15. UH, ISN'T FREEPLAND A DONATION SITE? n/t
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 12:04 PM
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17. It is indeed.
But that doesn't "count".
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 12:06 PM
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18. What Scares Right Wingie-Dingies: No Control
What scares right wingie-dingies about sites like DU, Media matters, etc. is the thought that they represent outlets for dissenting voices that Right Wing nuts and Right-Wing Dingbats can't control or silence. One of the reasons right wingie-dingies want to de-fund CPB and PBS is because they want to suppress "liberal" speech. The fact that left-of-center or left-of-reactionary sites can raise money by donations not only means that such sites can't so easily be suppressed, but also that those sites can continue to exist and even grow.

Today's right-wing reactionaries, unlike yesterdays genuine conservatives, can't tolerate dissent or difference of opinion.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 12:12 PM
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19. Here's why:
Edited on Sun Jun-11-06 12:13 PM by GrpCaptMandrake
We are distinctly non-corporate. We tap funding sources the Repiglicans never even dreamed existed: ordinary, work-a-day Americans because, after all, that's who we are. And what DU and Ben deliver is distinctly working class. The Repigs hate it when there's any possiblity of working folk actually uniting.

Repigs can't fathom fund-raising that doesn't involve casting the pearls of one's morals before the corporatist swine.

Ben, DU and others have shown that it's not necessary to ditch morals in order to succeed. And that sends nauseating waves of fear through the ranks of the hard little cancerous knot of people who still support Dear Leader and his filthy cadre.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 06:57 PM
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20. The same reason they were threatened by our fundraising for Andy. nt
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