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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 06:55 PM
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So, US troops are now going to lay seige to Ramadi, eh? (AGAIN)
Well, how many more times will US and Iraqi troops work together to liberate Ramadi from terrorists?


Let's count up the previous attempts, shall we?




November 18, 2003
U.S. Troops Leave Iraqi City, Hand Control Over to Iraqis
http://www-tech.mit.edu/V123/N57/iraq_long1_57.57w.html
A U.S. commander is preparing to pull troops back from Ramadi, a city at the center of guerrilla activity, and turn it over to Iraqi officers, an experiment that could change the course of the occupation of Iraq.

...

Ramadi, the provincial capital, with about 250,000 residents, has been a center of armed resistance against the U.S. occupation.

...

But Swannack said he had made steady progress in Ramadi, not just in training security forces but also in winning over allegiance from residents.




May 2004
Iraqis and U.S. Troops Work Together in Towns of Ramadi and Hit
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/05/20040504-2.html
Iraq Fact of the Day

Working together, Iraqis and U.S. troops are making a real difference in the lives of families in Ramadi and Hit, two towns in the so-called Baathist Triangle. Marines delivered 10 newly painted police cars to the police chief in Hit, and other Marines helped Iraqis in Ramadi break ground for a new medical clinic. A school in Ramadi received a truckload of supplies from the Marines, including air conditioners, ceiling fans, refrigerators and school desks. These are just a few examples of the ways U.S. troops and Iraqis are working together to improve life in Iraq.

Source: U.S. Marines Corps




July 23 2004
Falluja parallels in Ramadi
http://csmonitor.com/2004/0723/p06s01-woiq.html
RAMADI, IRAQ – Some of the heaviest fighting in months erupted on Wednesday in the troubled city of Ramadi. Throughout the day, the thud of mortars, bombs, and machine-gun fire echoed down desolate streets as insurgents battled hundreds of US Marines.




Nov 2004 (Some "real difference" they made)
20 US soldiers wounded in Ramadi
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-11/06/content_389175.htm
Twenty American soldiers were wounded in the Sunni Triangle city of Ramadi on Saturday, the U.S. military said without elaborating. Residents of that insurgent stronghold, located 70 miles west of Baghdad, reported clashes and explosions throughout the day.





Feb 2005
Marines launch bid to secure Ramadi ("Operation River Blitz ")
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1251865


Feb 2005
Citizens escape Ramadi
http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=7313
Residents of Ramadi, the capital of the western Anbar province, started to escape the city after the latest assault launched by U.S. occupation forces and Iraqi troops.




May 2005
General strike against occupation in Iraqi city of Ramadi
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php?article_id=6522
Iraqis in the city of Ramadi and neighbouring towns held a general strike last weekend in a protest against a blockade by US troops. The strike was called as US troops mounted a major offensive on villages and towns along the Euphrates river up to the border with Syria.

Sheikh Majeed al-Gaood, of the Duleim tribe from Ramadi, spoke to Socialist Worker by telephone from the Jordanian capital, Amman. He said that on Friday 7 May, after US troops surrounded the city, “a call came from the mosques for a general strike in Ramadi and neighbouring towns. Schools, markets and offices shut down in protest at the blockade”.




June 2005
Gunmen take over Ramadi as bomb kills five marines
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1508573,00.html
Insurgents have taken over much of the Iraqi city of Ramadi and used it to launch attacks against US forces while terrorising the population with public beheadings.





Sep 29, 2005
Roadside Bomb Kills Five American Soldiers During Combat in Western Iraqi Town of Ramadi
http://abcnews.go.com/International/IraqCoverage/wireStory?id=1169957
A roadside bomb killed five American soldiers during combat in the western town of Ramadi, a hotbed of insurgent activity, the U.S military said Thursday.




Oct 2005
US troops deny firing on civilians as 70 die in air strikes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/10/18/wirq18.xml
The US military said the casualties were the result of operations started on Sunday to combat insurgent groups that have taken control of parts of Ramadi recently.




April 2006
Iraqi Troops Start Rolling Out in Ramadi
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2217876



May 22, 2006
Insurgents Keep U.S. at Bay in Ramadi
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2006/05/22/214776-insurgents-keep-us-at-bay-in-ramadi
RAMADI, IRAQ — Whole neighborhoods are lawless, too dangerous for police. Some roads are so bomb-laden that U.S. troops won't use them. Guerrillas attack U.S. troops nearly every time they venture out — and hit their bases with gunfire, rockets or mortars when they don't.




And now:

Iraqis flee Ramadi as troops mass
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-fg-ramadi11jun11,0,6003091.story?track=mostviewed-storylevel
Fears of an imminent offensive by the U.S. troops massed around the insurgent stronghold of Ramadi intensified Saturday, with residents pouring out of the city to escape what they describe as a mounting humanitarian crisis.


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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:07 PM
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1. Head meet wall. Hurt much? n/t
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:19 PM
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2. The "failed insurgency" should be informed of it's demise.
Would save a lot of lives, money, destruction, and bad PR for our military still mistakenly looking for an enemy that has been defeated several times.

They kept doing the same thing in that other "defeated" insurgency in SE Asia where the "body-counts" showed they had killed the entire NLF and NVA...twice.

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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:26 PM
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3. And, chances are, it will require another offensive in six months.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:30 PM
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4. I was looking all over for this story!
First time on here in days and I figured it would be front page on LBN.

So, so sad. We screwed that country and those people beyond belief. We'll wind up destroying the city in order to "save it".
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:19 PM
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6. There's an article in LBN. Here's a link >>>>
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:31 PM
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5. beyond sick!
war crimes times a bazillion! :(
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:51 PM
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7. What, exactly, is so hard to understand
about people wanting an invading army out of their city? We are blaming the citizens of Ramadi for wanting to rid themselves of foreign occupation. Iraqis have lives, they have families they cherish, they have a religion which is sacred to them, and they naturally long to just be able to lead their lives as they see fit.

We, on the other hand, are trying to ram our own ideas of government down their throats. We are willing to kill untold thousands of them to achieve our own goals. How would any of us feel, if the situation were reversed, and another country invaded the US in order to give us their own idea of democracy, and we had to meekly accept their concept of how to live? What the hell is wrong with us, that we are so blind to accept that each country should be entitled to choose their own form of government?

Bush is dangerously delusional, and so rigid in his own ideas of how Iraq should be, that he completely obliterates anybody who challenges his own visions. We do not have the right to tell another country how to live. It should be up to the citizens of every country to make that determination. It is shocking to me that so many people are determined to allow an arrogant failure to dictate to other people how they can, or can not, live.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:51 AM
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8. He's going to make himself seen as a liberator one way or another
no matter how many have to die in the process.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:02 AM
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9. sure he is and it will take the majority of the Iraqi to die to do it.
no way hell shape or form is this POS to be recognized as my president
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 08:34 AM
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10. More dead in the last 3 years than during the UN sanctions of the 1990s
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:23 AM
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12. and something tells me georgie is proud of it.
he sees them as lesser than he.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 08:44 AM
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11. thanks for highlighting this
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 02:32 PM
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13. kick
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 02:36 PM
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14. Reminds me of another war, not so long ago
I think it started with a 'V'....something about taking and re-taking villages over and over and over and over and over...don't think that one ended very well, until we gave up and went home....
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 02:40 PM
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15. job security for survivors
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