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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:02 AM
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6th time, the supporters of the Iraq war are proclaiming a "turning point"
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19438356-7583,00.html

FIRST, it was the pulling down of Saddam Hussein's statue in Baghdad. Then it was the deaths of Uday and Qusay Hussein. Then the capture of Saddam himself. After that, the elections. After that, the formation of a government. And now it's the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. For the sixth time, the supporters of the Iraq war are proclaiming a "turning point" in the conflict. And for the sixth time, we can be fairly sure it won't be.

Make no mistake: al-Zarqawi was a fiend and no one should mourn his demise. But it would be a grave mistake to believe that with the Jordanian terrorist dead, the insurgency will now fade away. After all, individuals such as al-Zarqawi no longer control - if they ever did - the inferno in Iraq. Neither do international terror networks such as al-Qa'ida. In the 1990s, foreign jihadists did play a crucial role in fighting for the radical Islamist cause in Afghanistan, Bosnia and Algeria.

But in Iraq, such is the strength of local opposition to the occupation, foreign insurgents such as al-Zarqawi have been surplus to requirements. Out of all the fighters and suspected insurgents killed or detained by the occupation and Iraqi forces, only 10 per cent have been foreign.

The home-grown nature of the Iraqi rebellion is an unpalatable truth that the coalition's leaders refuse to publicly acknowledge. To do so would mean conceding that a large section of the Iraqi population do not see coalition forces as "liberators" but as a hostile army of occupation. Far better to paint a picture of a conflict prolonged by international terror networks such as al-Qa'ida and devilish frontmen such as al-Zarqawi.

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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:03 AM
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1. Keep turning the corner and you're going in circles.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:06 AM
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2. I've got a bet with a friend
on how soon we'll see that tired old statement from the past:

"Light at the End of the Tunnel"

I give it about another 6 months, he says within a year, tops.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:17 AM
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4. We never quite get to the light at the end of the tunnel because ...
we keep hitting turning points.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:19 AM
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5. LOL, good one n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:16 AM
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3. So what direction does that send the US?
3 corners and you close the loop. 4 corners and you are going the direction you started That is if the corner is turned the same direction each time.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:19 AM
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6. One and a half Revolutions too slow.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:20 AM
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7. And every time we had posters here calling us tin hats for not believing
Thats a fact.

Don
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:25 AM
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8. Just don't use the "C" word.
Cause once you say conspiracy, you've automatically lost the argument.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:28 AM
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9. Oh baloney.
The vast majority of posters here are, and always have been, against the war, and doubtful that anythingt good could possibly come from it. You can always dig up a few who supported the war, I suppose, but that signifies very little about DU posters. And I've never seen any posts calling someone a tin foiler for expressing their opinion that the war is an unwinnable travesty.

As regards this idiotic 6th time's the charm crap; it reminds me of someone who keeps putting their hand on a hot stove, convinced that this time they won't be burned. Demonstrates a terminal incapacity to learn from past experience.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:33 AM
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:40 AM
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13. Yes, I was here. No it wasn't under my current screen name
I've been here since 2002, and was reading before I was a member, so no I'm not talking out of my ass. I simply don't recall a lot of supporters of this war on the board. Might I suggest that if you're so sure you're right, that you provide some evidence that a sizeable minority at DU supported the war and bought into the bushit?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:46 AM
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14. You are looking for evidence?
Become a donating member and search around for that evidence your self. Its all there if you are that interested.

Don
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:53 AM
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16. Nope. Not all that interested in
any of your claims. And no, I don't want to contribute.
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:29 AM
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10. At least 7 - author forgot to count drafting of Iraqi Constitution
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:37 AM
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12. If you turn the corner enough times, you end up back where you
started.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:52 AM
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15. When in danger,
when in doubt;
run in circles, scream and shout.

:wtf:
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