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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:30 PM
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I just called Borders and told them I was offended by the Ann Coulter book
being smack in my face when I walked into the store tonight. I went there to find "The Case for Impeachment", which I bought after having to see the MAN book display in front and in the politics section.. I talked to the clerk and the store manager and they both said that their corporate office dictates what goes on display and they want all there stores to be the same.

I live in Madison WI where hundreds of people are repelled by her, but the store cannot even make a decision not to put the book on display. I called their corporate customer store and told them that if they want customers to turn around and walk right back out without shopping, they're doing it just right.

The title of her book and the comments about the 911 widows make any book of hers too filthy for land fill. They should be burned.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:33 PM
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1. While I agree that Coulter is a ...well...you know.......
.....can't condone book burning.....it's what Hitler did. It's what Bush cabal would love to do with 'liberal literature'.....
Nope, book burning is bad, no matter how repulsive the content.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:35 PM
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5. Book burning implies that there are ideas in the book
I think this would be more like garbage burning, actually.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:50 AM
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36. And would probably smell like burning old rubber tires too!
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:09 PM
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24. Not book burning, just not giving preferential treatment
by giving the book an extra promotion and prominent display.

We have every right to tell booksellers that we will shop elsewhere if they are going to stick really offensive, divisive books right in our faces. There's no reason why they can't simply stock the book in the politics section normally. That accords Mann her free speech rights, avoids giving her unfair promotion, and avoids offending people.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:33 PM
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2. If borders wants to promote lies and defamation
Edited on Mon Jun-12-06 07:11 PM by depakid
TELL THEM YOU WON'T SHOP THERE.

You can get most anything you want (and cheaper) online- rather than in some chain store.
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nolies32fouettes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:08 PM
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23. borders donates to red businesses. Barnes and Noble is more blue
last I knew.

Amazon=Red
Powells=Blue
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:23 PM
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27. Yup, B&N is blue
I get all my books from B&N online. If you pay $25 a year, you get a 10% discount on all purchases. That saves me a few bucks, you can be sure.
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:14 AM
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35. Err, B&N has a big Coulter display, too
Umm, hate to break to everyone, but my local B&N has a BIG, SPECIAL display of Coulter's book--right inside the door. The book has its own rack, even. I almost didn't buy the gift certificate I had come for. I oppose censorship and book banning--Coulter has the right to spew--err--speak. However, do we need to FEATURE her in every store?? How about putting her back with all the other political books?

:puke:
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:48 PM
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29. Ironic that Borders donates to red businesses because
it is based in Ann Arbor, Michigan, one of the bluest cities in the U.S. And not just because of U-M's school colors.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 08:35 PM
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31. B&N gets my busines ('course, there's a store a couple hundred yds away)
:)
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:33 PM
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3. Burning a book is just about the worst thing a person can do.
But then again, Ann Coulter's book is even a bigger insult to humanity.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:34 PM
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4. don't give her your power
Without outrage, her book will be forgotten as fast as she is.

that godless woman lives in a world of hurt, and her only satisfaction is to
see that we care enough to discuss her...

Drop her, don't discuss her, be ambivalent, and don't give her the madonna bounce
of a niche group outrage.. on DU for peets sake, for all the threads, as if
any one of us cared whether that woman lives or died. She looks dead to me,
for all the pictures of her head in that gold frame, with the godless heartless
soulless meme.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:37 PM
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Bookstores should aim at the audience that shops there
The clerks were kind of embarrassed that they had to do it. Its just stupid not to let book selection be tailored to the market that the store is in.

A store in East Madison should have a full table of "The Case for Impeachment" when you walk in the door, not a book of Ann Coulter's. That's just good marketing.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:49 PM
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16. Her book is an avertizement for the democrats
She failed in marketing totally.

It looks like she is godless, and all it does is promote this
devil woman. "i wouldn't touch her with a nine and half foot pole."
The feral look in her eyes is downright spooky, really. She is
a posterchild for the neocon collapse. Why fight it?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:35 PM
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6. When I was in Border's, I took Ted Kennedy's new book
and put it on top of hers. I love doing that, altho I feel a little guilty for the employee that has to straighten it out. But then I think, maybe I made someone smile.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 03:23 AM
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37. I like your approach.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:36 PM
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7. Quit behaving like a Republican...
it is they who want censorship and book burnings - stop imitating them please.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:37 PM
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8. How about going on a covert Spec Ops mission....
slap some pre-stamped post-it notes (with the word "LIAR") smack dab on the front covers of those fascist screeds...

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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:07 PM
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22. i love to browse nazipooh screeds
such as oreilly etc and quietly mark a swastika on the inside front page - this is mostly at 2nd hand shops, since i already boycott the corporate pigs.... it's also fun in coffeeshops to neatly put a swastika on the forehead of rw mediawhore columnists in their customer tabloid newspapers; if done right, the goof looks like s/he really has it tattooed onto hisher head, ala the manson psychos....klol
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 05:33 PM
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39. So you’re proud about vandalizing other people’s property? N/T
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 06:06 PM
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40. just performing a service to the cud chewers....
when they see oreilly (or say limbah-humbug, brite hum, big russ's disgraceful spawn tim, annhole coulter, 5-in-the-noggin gibson, woofy blitzer etc) they might assume there's something there that's not there, so a lil swastika on the frontpiece (or drawn into a mediawhore columnist's foreskinhead lol) clarifies that the reader is in for a nasty trip to hell with no redeeming value received in exchange for the pittance they spent. i'm sure the yahoos would thank me for making clear the depravity of the marked individuals, which would also assist the really crude freeper types to purchase the mindless crap they might otherwise miss (being semi illiterate boors)....
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 07:55 PM
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41. No matter how you rationalize it, it’s still vandalism.
The only person that it harms is the shop owner. If the shoe was on the other foot (freepers vandalizing books) I bet you would see it as wrong.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:38 PM
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42. you insist on looking on the not- very-sunny-side!
whilst i always try to think positive.. :)
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:37 PM
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9. You gave me an idea. Maybe we should all call all bookstores
in our cities and protest that they are displaying Coulter. Or call, after pretending to have purchased the book, and tell them that you want to return it on priniciple, with a full refund, in protest of her inflammatory remarks.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:41 PM
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12. I can't remember ever giving feedback to a bookstore before
and I expected to see the other right wing crap when I was looking for the book I wanted. Somehow hers just seems like a kick in the face because she is such a nasty hateful person.

I do think we should give feedback to bookstores - they should be able to have some say in what they display. If its controlled by right wingers I don't want to shop there, I'll find somewhere else.


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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:50 PM
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Some DUer recently reported that they occasionally turned books
that they didn't like that were on display, upside down, or reshelved them in an obscure out of the way location, where most would not look!

:rofl: Dare you!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:54 PM
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19. All that does is make life hard
for the poor college kid working there for minimum wage.

I'd rather go to the top to make my stink... but to each his own.
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 04:19 AM
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38. No, it doesn't make life hard
for the college kid working at the bookstore, if you reshelve a book...

it ensures they'll have a steady job.

The nice thing about Ann Coulter is that her message is so repulsive, that the more mainstream attention she gets, the more people she turns off. Even that knucklehead Matt Lauer is starting to realize what a misanthropic freak she is.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:37 PM
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10. Switch to an Independent bookstore
Am sure there are a few in Madison.

And then tell Borders - in person to manager and also in writing to home office - you have made the move -- and why.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:40 PM
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11. i would be more offended if they didnt give it whatever position a book
of its sales figures would rate.

if its a best seller, put it with the best sellers, if its a flop, put it with the flops.

if it came out heavily promoted it should be with similar titles. let it fail on its content, not by being hidden away.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:46 PM
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13. Knock yourself out
Contact Us
Corporate Headquarters
For general inquiries contact us at:

Borders Group, Inc.
100 Phoenix Drive
Ann Arbor, MI 48108
734.477.1100


Customer Care
For general questions or comments regarding Borders store experiences, please send email to ccare@bordersstores.com.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:47 PM
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14. Here's my methodology:
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:47 PM
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15. where are the anarchists?
everytime progressives hold a protest, the anarchists seem to show up to threaten to raise hell and provoke the police etc - why aren't they running amok at borders? (or barnes and noble etc?)...someone should inform them about the bottleblond freak and her doorstopper....
here's border customer care email...let's bug them....
https://www.bordersstores.com/care/care.jsp?page=7
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:50 PM
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17. I find all this outrage about
Coulter just ridiculous. There are lots better things to get indignant about than boring old ann. Personally, I refuse to shop at those big box "bookstores". They're not the real thing. Support Indy bookshops, and turn your back on corporate creeps like Borders and Barnes and Noble.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:57 PM
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21. Unfortunately my indy stores
DO NOT carry Palast or the mags I buy...
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:30 PM
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28. Ask them to order what you want
My little independent, used book store will order anything I ask for. She's true blue, by the way.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:52 PM
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18. I wrote an email
My daughter works at a Borders and I noticed the placement right away.

I told them that IMHO, book stores should be non-partisan and their overly conspicuous display of this vile hate-mongering drivel disgusts me to the point where I am considering never shopping there again. I also told them that in a post 9/11 world, we should not be bearing false witness against the victim's families.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:56 PM
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20. Go buy Palast's book
look the companies pay for this kind of placement, I ain't kidding you. They can pay all the money in the world, if yuo and I buy books that are guerrilla marketed, everybody wins...well except Annie and her publisher that is
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WestSeattle2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:21 PM
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25. I just want to make sure I understand this....
you told their corporate offices that "customers would turn around and walk right back out without shopping"...........after you yourself shopped and made a purchase there?

:think:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:16 PM
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34. Buying a book establishes that I am a customer
If I hadn't been so offended I might have browsed the store for another hour and spent much more.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:21 PM
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26. Sometimes publishers pay for book placement
If you see those cardboard stands that have 12 or so cubicles to hold books, they're called dumps, and publishers pay to have them put in stores. If Annhole's publisher paid for the placement, they'd be in breach of contract not to put them in the front. Still, you did the absolutely right thing to complain. I don't suppose they HAVE to take the publisher's $$$ to display something that'll cause customers to walk out.
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Rude Horner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 08:31 PM
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30. Hey, fellow Madisonian
I was born and raised there. I still work there, although I live outside of the City.

Nice to see a fellow DU'er sharing the same topsoil. :) :hi:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:14 PM
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33. Hey Rude Horner
:hi:
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:12 PM
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32. I've never read one of her books...
but I'm not for burning them, no matter what she has to say. If hers were burned, how long would it be before others went up in flames? Burning books is usually associated with goose-stepping and chanting swastikas.
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