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pstokely

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Tue Jun-13-06 11:11 AM
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A Moran Cartoonist

Edited on Tue Jun-13-06 11:34 AM by pstokely

At least he got 2+2 right.

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meegbear

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Tue Jun-13-06 11:30 AM
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1. Looks like the NOT HERE! room doesn't need the money

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ComerPerro

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Tue Jun-13-06 11:39 AM
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2. Where's the frame showing a priest molesting young children?

I understand that's what goes on in all Catholic churches, and apparently the schools too...

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LouisianaLiberal

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Tue Jun-13-06 11:40 AM
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3. The fact that Washington is replaced by a crucifix

is the most disturbing part of this absurd cartoon. The dominionist talking points seem to be more out in the open now, and the subtle denigration of the constitution in favor of Christian Nationalism is not so subtle anymore. One more nail in democracy's coffin.

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NoodleyAppendage

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Tue Jun-13-06 11:43 AM
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4. Yes, that's right. Only Xtian school children are well-behaved?? WTF??

Some of the worst little sociopaths I know of come from Catholic or Protestant religious schools.

J

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HughBeaumont

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Tue Jun-13-06 11:48 AM
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5. Hardest partiers, worst sluts, etc

I came from a public school and did just fine, thank you.

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Donald Ian Rankin

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Tue Jun-13-06 11:48 AM
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6. Yes, but that's anecdotal, not statistical, and therefor not relevant.

Christian schools, at least here in the UK, do better on average than the national average, it's perfectly true. However, like most such differences, that's almost certainly down to differences in intake rather than differences in education - the childred of people who are willing to make an effort to get your child into a church school, or any other kind of selective school, are probably on average better self-disciplined than the children of people who aren't, for a variety of reasons.

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LostinVA

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Tue Jun-13-06 11:50 AM
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7. Many such schools in the US aren't even accredited

Colleges won't accept their students until the kids take certain remedial courses, etc.

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yellowcanine

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Tue Jun-13-06 12:14 PM
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15. Also Christian schools simply toss out the troublemakers. Much harder

for a public school to do that. I taught at a Catholic H.S. My most immature students by far as a group were the ones that had attended Catholic middle and elementary schools.

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RaleighNCDUer

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Tue Jun-13-06 01:07 PM
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18. Not to mention that they are not only 'selective' but 'self-selective'.

Any real troublemakers get bounced, fast. They may go elsewhere in the private school system, like military acadamies, but the typical religious school has fewer discipline problems because they get rid of the discipline problems, since they don't HAVE to keep them and work with them like the public schools do.

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ayeshahaqqiqa

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Tue Jun-13-06 12:02 PM
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8. As a former public school teacher

I am offended by the first panel. Where I taught, we weren't allowed to sit at our desk-we had to be on our feet, helping children and maintaining order. Once when I taught in the inner city, I had a child assault another after school, putting him in the hospital. The rest of the class was ready to kill the perpetrator-and my principal and her assistant were nowhere to be seen. There was no disruption, and the kids learned how important it was to hold tempers. Later, when I worked for a private educational facility, we had the luxury of choosing who attended. Public schools don't have that choice.

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pstokely

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Tue Jun-13-06 12:05 PM
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10. What do you expect, it's a moranic cartoonist.

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DesertRat

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Tue Jun-13-06 12:07 PM
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11. Same here

Edited on Tue Jun-13-06 12:08 PM by DesertRat

I am a public school teacher and I resent the cartoonist's implication that we sit and read, ignoring the class. Nothing could be further from the truth. :grr:

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jmowreader

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Tue Jun-13-06 12:04 PM
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9. You've discovered Chuck Asay!

Asay's reliably extreme-right.

OTOH...while both are equally wingnutty, Asay is much easier to take than Glenn McCoy. Chuck Asay can draw very well; McCoy draws worse than Jack Chick.

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gratuitous

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Tue Jun-13-06 12:08 PM
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12. I wonder why the second panel doesn't have a Star of David?

Or maybe an Islamic Crescent and Star? I'm sure the cartoonist wouldn't mind a bit if his tax dollars were spent educating little Jewish kids in the Hebrew language, or teaching little Muslim kids that there is no God but Allah, and Mohammed is His prophet? Right? Right?

{Crickets}

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unpossibles

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Tue Jun-13-06 12:25 PM
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17. exactly. Or perhaps a Buddha

where they tell your children about the doctorine of non-violence and vegetarianism. I'm sure the pro-death "Christian" crowd would love that.

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ayeshahaqqiqa

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Tue Jun-13-06 01:22 PM
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19. Personally, I want Ganesha there

as Ganesha removes obstacles. :)

One small correction: La illah il Allah is translated as "There is no God but God." "Allah" is merely Arabic for "God"-any Muslim would tell you that to imply that Allah is other than the Only God is not understanding Islam. Muslims recognize the other prophets, including Moses, Abraham, Jesus, etc. It is Christians who don't recognize the Prophet Mohammed (peace and blessings be upon them all)

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gratuitous

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Tue Jun-13-06 01:43 PM
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20. Yeah, but I wanted the cartoonist to be as bugged as me

"There is no God but God" doesn't make nearly the impression on English-speaking ears as "There is no God but Allah." The twits who want to commodify religion (particularly Christianity, as here) seem to have a huge blind spot about just how offensive their actions are -- to Christian and non-Christian alike. God isn't a capitalist and doesn't wave the stars and stripes, and it bugs me when God is reduced to such, but the people who do that commodifying usually don't comprehend why. Using a term for God that is unfamiliar to their ears is a way of doing that.

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ayeshahaqqiqa

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Tue Jun-13-06 02:58 PM
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21. Now I understand

and forgive me for not "getting it". But you would be surprised how many people around think that "Allah" is somehow another god, not the same as God.

What would be really neat is to see Shiva Nataraj on the teacher's desk. (I probably spelt it wrong-sorry!) It is a statue of Shiva, God of Destruction, dancing upon the Dwarf of Ignorance.

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MikeNearMcChord

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Tue Jun-13-06 12:12 PM
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13. Questions for Mr. Assay

Why should a member of the GLBT community, have his/her tax money used to subsidize schools that would teach bigotry against them?
Would you like your money going to a school taught be the Nation Of Islam?

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MorningGlow

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Tue Jun-13-06 12:13 PM
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14. Self-righteous sonsabitches

As if calling yourself a Christian makes everything ideal. Some of the most awful people I know call themselves "Christians"...'course, they really don't know the meaning of the word...

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ThomCat

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Tue Jun-13-06 12:24 PM
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16. Asay's cartoons are often like this.

He sets up straw man arguments to attack democrats, liberals, and anything on the left. It's a shame that he draws well. I like the look of his cartoons, but the content is always rediculously neo-con.

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