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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 05:37 PM
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Josh Marshall on what this means for Rove's reputation

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So he did do what he was suspected of and he did lie about it.

Now, I'm happy to take Patrick Fitzgerald's word for it, his evaluation of the evidence, that there's not enough evidence to indict Rove on any criminal charge. As Rove's defenders have long made clear, the underlying statute dealing with revealing the identities of covert operatives is very hard to bring a charge with. Same goes for making false statements or perjury. Hard to prove and you need lots of evidence as to intent and so forth.

In fact, not only am I happy to take Fitzgerald's word for it, if this is in fact the case, good for Fitzgerald. A prosecutor's role is not to punish people for malicious acts. It is to ascertain whether they've committed specific criminal acts and determine whether there is sufficient evidence to sustain a charge.

But none of this changes the fact, for which there is abundant evidence, even admissions from Rove himself, that he did the malicious act. And he lied about doing it. Indeed, on top of that, President Bush welched on his promise to can anyone who was involved.

So, what reputation is it exactly that Rove wants back? I think this development leaves Rove's reputation quite intact.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/008732.php

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 05:40 PM
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1. Is this a back-handed smack?
I mean, Rove's reputation was that of a lying, cheating snake - a winning one - but a snake just the same before all this.

So is Marshall saying he's STILL a lying, cheating snake?

(With the most sincere apologies to the snake world).

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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 05:50 PM
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6. Yes!
Edited on Tue Jun-13-06 05:51 PM by Vinnie From Indy
He makes the point that regardless of indictment or no indictment, the info that was ascertained by Fitz would be enough to destroy Rove in a reality based society.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 05:46 PM
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2. Where did Fitzgerald say that he didn't have enough evidence to get Rove
on ANY criminal charges?
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 05:49 PM
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5. thanks...where did Fitzgerald say anything?
I thought it was coming from the lawyer, Luskin, who said Fitzgerald said he 'doesn't anticipate' indicting Rove...

or was it Luskin who 'doesnt anticipate'? I thought all the Fitz info was hearsay.
Of course, I missed the original thread because I have been going through all the bitch-fests just trying to get a sense of what everyone thinks about all of this.

Rove is such a bastard. I think he's doing Bush's bidding on this one...Jane Hamsher is saying the WH wants to dump Cheney and this may be the way to do it.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 05:46 PM
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3. Fitzgerald's word on it?
Did I miss something? Has Fitz actually issued a statement?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 05:48 PM
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4. No, he goes on to state "if this is in fact the case..."
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 05:56 PM
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7. Pft! That is worthy of the Star, or the Globe
I hate those rag tactics... may as well say BATBOY CLEARS ROVE!!!!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 06:28 PM
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8. Aye, but the question I have
is whether or not Fitz is done in general, or if he's still got avenues he's going to pursue?
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