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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:32 AM
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Media so removed from the economic reality of most Americans
Today show is doing segment on saving money

One of the recommendations was to do your own housework and mow your own yard and drop the lawn service. And if you can't give up the maid, have her come in less often. :wtf:

I've also seen style segments when they are talking about the bargain pants at only $100 and blazer at $225 like it's such a great buy.

What world do these people inhabit? Do you make expenditures like these or am I just poorer than I thought?

On the plus side, they did recommend ditching the car and using public transportation. But, they forget the fact that it's not an option for many people because the government doesn't want to fund it and is actively sabatoging it as in the case of Amtrack.
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bedpanartist Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:34 AM
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1. they should be slaughtered like hogs
for promoting what they promote in a world where children starve every damn day.

Look at what my city has become in my photo blog below.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:26 AM
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17. That's a little harsh
I don't advocate violence or an eat-the-rich mentality.

My husband is from Springfield so I'm quite familiar with the area.
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bedpanartist Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:49 AM
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21. i know, I'm not completely serious
but having grown up poor, and currently living amidst so much poverty, I can see how massive inequality fosters violent attitudes among the poor.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:37 AM
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Shit, I'm in the upper quartile of wage-slaves . . .
And I can't afford a lawn service or a maid. They aren't just blowing off most Americans, but everybody but the genuinely wealthy! I think the problem with these plasticized commentators is once your salary exceeds a million a year, you lose all touch with reality.

With regard to auto vs public transit, even in areas with excellent transit and community/government support, you generally still need a car for erranding -- not all trips are to and from work, after all.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:31 AM
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14. They set the bar high to promote the consumerist lifestyle
without which they would not have a job.

Every penny they make comes from corporate advertising. What would you expect?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:37 AM
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2. They reside in LaLa land,
Where everything is wonderful all the time:shrug:

I don't think that you, or I for that matter, are poorer than we think. My wife and I do all the household chores, always have. So does everybody that we know.

I have noticed a trend of middle and upper middle class folks retaining lawn serivices and maids, but around here I think this is the exception rather than the rule.

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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:39 AM
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3. Weren't the plans for Iraq drawn up there?
Yep, LaLa land.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:40 AM
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4. Maybe tinfoily
But I've wondered if it isn't to make people fell like "losers", that way we're less likely to speak out OR 95% of all marketing goes out to 15% of population
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:15 AM
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11. I think you are right, actually
Make people feel like losers, so they keep quiet and don't complain
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:42 AM
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In wealthy Seattle, 55% are forced to rent because of housing prices
And don't get me started at the number of homeless people or how many of my friends can't afford basic medical care :mad:
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:45 AM
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7. It's actually going the opposite way here in DC...
Our rent just got jacked up $300, and when we crunched the number we figured that it would actually be cheaper to buy than to keep renting. And while the DC real estate market hasn't really gone down the crapper, sellers are getting antsy to unload. We weren't planning on buying just now, but we've got the down payment money and got an approval letter, so we're on the hunt.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:42 AM
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5. People who write that crap
for the talking heads to read on the bushes news programs are rolling in money. One of the reasons the news industry is so pro-bush, because like the bushes, they have millions. So they make suggestions like do your own housework (well dah, I've been doing my own housework since I was 12). Buy a $120 jacket instead of a $300 jacket. I'm lucky to afford a $50 jacket. Eat local caviar instead of $300/lb foreign caviar. Caviar what's caviar? Go out to eat less often is my favorite most often quoted money saving tip. We go out to eat about twice a year, I guess we could reduce that to never.
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:42 AM
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6. Easiest way to save money is not to spend it...
...whether it's on lawn service or a pack of gum from the gas station. That's about all the report really needed to say.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:49 AM
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8. What always gets me is when they tout the unemployment rate went down ...
on a given week without discussing how many are off it because their benefits ran out. As someone who's experienced that twice in a lifetime, nothing angers me more.

They should be required to state what percentage of that number are cutoff people.
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987654321 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:01 AM
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9. Yeah, most of them are a bunch of millionare idiots.
They are definitely out of touch with the majority of Americans. I do know a few people who this segment would apply to. I know far more people who could only save money if they skipped a meal a day.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:05 AM
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10. TV caters to the upper class
Notice the large houses that everyone has on TV... Their lives are not about how they are going to pay the bills, and the troubles of the common man..
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:26 AM
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12. They must think their audience is made up of simpletons....
:eyes:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:30 AM
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13. The fear of losing that status in THIS economy keeps them in line...
Edited on Wed Jun-14-06 09:31 AM by Junkdrawer
No widespread conspiracy needed. They spend their waking days trying to guess and repeat exactly what the boss wants to hear.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:32 AM
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15. LOL!
Beautiful! Nice catch...
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The Revolution Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:39 AM
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16. People who have money
Don't seem to realize how most people live in this country. I remember seeing something like this several years ago. They were talking about someone making $50,000 a year. I was thinking "Wow, $50k is a lot of money," but the host/anchor was stunned that anyone actually lived on such a small amount.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:33 AM
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18. I agree
I have a young co-worker who grew up with money and when I was sharing my younger days of poverty, she was simply stunned. It all sounded so foreign to her. Belt-tightening was skipping a long weekend in the Bahamas.

Then she told me about a woman who was ditched by her wealthy husband and left with two kids. So, she married even farther up the ladder, even though the guy was a cretin, just so she and her kids would have the good life to which she had grown accostommed. My co-worker didn't see a problem with that.


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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:37 AM
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19. for equal time
Edited on Wed Jun-14-06 10:37 AM by kineneb
they need to do a segment on how two people can live on $14K/yr (like us).

It might be amusing. :sarcasm:

Let's see...
-how to find a food pantry
-how to prepare a nutritious meal using "free" gov. food give-aways
-where to find thrift shops
-what to look for when buying used clothing
-how to apply for assistance

What maid and gardener? That is what I do.

ed f/spelling, not enough coffee
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:37 AM
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20. So fucking true. Just don't watch the shit any more.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:54 AM
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22. They live in the world of the "haves" and couldn't care less
about you and the rest of the "great unwashed". After all, you are here for their convenience, to be used when necessary and thrown away when they're finished with you.

BTW $14K p/year does make you really poor.
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 11:09 AM
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23. I think a majority of middle class families use these services...
especially those where spouses both work full-time or are self-employed. Many of the cleaning companies or lawn companies are run by neighbors or friends in the community. Unlike the upper classes they seldom have live in help so it is not expensive.

Most lawn services cost about 70 bucks a month and house cleaning about 50 bucks a week.

Just my .02 cents.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 12:49 PM
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24. So how do you define "middle-class"?
Spending $270 a month on lawn and housecleaning is way out there, for me. I make $30,000, between two jobs, and live in a one-bedroom apartment. As I am single, I think that qualifies me as "middle-class" by government standards. Sure doesn't feel like it, though.

No 2 cents -- don't have it to spare.
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 12:59 PM
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25. Well you would not need a housekeeper...
nor lawn care assistance if you are living in a 1 bedroom apt.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 02:11 PM
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26. You still didn't answer her question, though
What would be middle-class for people who would use these services?
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 02:24 PM
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27. I don't have a magic figure since...
it would depend how many live in a household, where in the US they reside, type of living arrangement, etc...

Urban living/economics are a lot different than suburban or rural living.


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