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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:35 PM
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You know DUer's, if we had a few more brilliants like Dennis Kucinich toda
y, we would have a kick ass party. Ted, Dennis, Al, Russ, those are the ones! Yep. We would just kick some ASS!



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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:54 PM
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1. Kucinich was my choice for 2004. I'm with you! n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:55 PM
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2. I voted for Kerry, but Dennis was my choice in the primary nomination stag
Edited on Wed Jun-14-06 08:56 PM by lonestarnot
e (damn) I hate when the line runs out of space.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:58 PM
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3. I think Dennis has a place in the new administration
the head of the Department of Peace
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:00 PM
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4. OMG, The Department of Peace! Wonder how much they would
appropriate for dat?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:30 PM
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7. At first not enough but as we progress, much
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 01:03 AM
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12. Peace appropriations wooooodamnwhooo! Love it!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:46 AM
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Who ever heard of anything anymore ungawdly than peace...
appropriations? Holy Sheiite!

It takes a horribly demented liberal mind, to even think, of something as "Ungodly" as peace, in any way shape or form! You people are about to split HELL wide open if you don't REPENT ASAP...
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:07 PM
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5. But But But........................
I know, love the man. Best vote I ever cast and I would do it again and work double time for him. Funny how so many appreciate him but so few would actually support him.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:22 PM
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6. Yeah what the fuck is up with that?
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:00 PM
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8. Not a clue.
I cherish honesty and vision above politicking. DK is just that, honest and visionary. He can also be very practical but he always is thinking out of the box with his basic condition that it be good for the US, the people and the world. I don't know what it up with all that, I am certain that some of it is just personal taste but if I had a dime for everyone who said that they thought he was great but not electable well, you know how that goes.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 01:00 AM
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10. I think people thought he was too short in stature....bullshit!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 08:30 AM
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14. I just read through
this thread and I am with you, I would love to nominate Old Crusoe's post. That is perfect.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:41 AM
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19. Yes indeed. Old Crusoe is a star in my star book and you too MuseRider!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 10:28 AM
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24. You're a great Democrat, you love horses, you write beautifully, and
you're generous-of-spirit.

What are you doing in the United States, and how can we be lucky enough to keep you?

Hi, MuseRider.

You take care of those horses for me. I just know they're in good hands.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 11:15 AM
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25. You, my friend,
are amazing. :loveya:

I am closing on my loan to construction in an hour so I will finally be able to live on my farm with my horses, grow my own food, have some chickens and basically be an outsider to all of this mess. Not that I won't be involved but I need this peace and the extra time I will have to continue my work.

I really wish I was half those things you mention but I do take good care of my critters, that I will claim.

How could I leave with people like you here?

Peace.

Now I will go throw up, this loan business scares the crap out of me.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 11:20 AM
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27. Just take a big SuperSquirter to the loan meeting and let 'em know
up front that you aren't taking any bullshit this afternoon, and if they don't like it, they're going to get soaked but good.

If you wind up on that farm, I wish you all the unmitigated space and quietude it can offer.

Bravo!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 11:34 AM
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28. Thank you.
:)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:26 PM
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9. I'm still liking Kucinich's primary victory over the woman from the
Edited on Wed Jun-14-06 10:27 PM by Old Crusoe
steak house chain. Or whatever she was.

I'm still liking it.

A lot.

In some ways Dennis Kucinich is one of the tallest Democrats ever. The gauge that measures integrity and true-blue dedication to people first says Dennis Kucinich is a giant.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 01:02 AM
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11. OMG, I just made a comment to another DUer re stature.
Wish I could nominate your post Old Crusoe. You said it so beautifully. :hug: :patriot:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 06:48 AM
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13. Hey there, lonestarnot. Hey -- we both share a respect for the man.
I had written a letter of objection to ABC News when Ted Koppel had Kucinich on and behaved dismissively toward him.

I'm not anti-Koppel 100% of the time, but I felt his behavior toward Kucinich was uncalled for.

Kucinich's supporters love him to death, and I always find them very easy to talk with.

The guy's class act.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:37 AM
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17. True class!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:42 AM
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20. Mmmm.... steak.....
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 08:33 AM
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15. I love DK - I also love the anti-corruption Democrats who take on the
Edited on Thu Jun-15-06 08:36 AM by blm
most difficult, most unpopular battles withing government. Kerry, Waxman and Conyers have done the most to expose government corruption - the least popular issue for most of DC.

Dennis Kucinich, though, made me the liberal thinker I am today - he was also the first example I saw in taking on the corruption of local government when he was mayor of Cleveland.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 08:36 AM
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16. You're absolutely right. The Dems fail because....
...they keep trottiung out the same old grey horses. We need less Biden and more progressive Dems on the media representing our side.

Cong. Lousie Slaughter was brilliant on CSPAN...I'd sure rather see her than that Jane Harmon all the time.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:38 AM
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18. They're not trott'n 'em it's the damn liberal biased media donchaknow.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 03:44 PM
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30. I'm with you on Slaughter. She is tough and smart.
Harman is a bit too boysclubby for my taste.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:43 AM
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21. "What can you say when you are watching your nation descend, sleep walking
"What can you say when you are watching your nation descend, sleep walking, into something like the lower circles of hell in Dante's Inferno?

STOP IT!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:46 AM
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22. I respect Kucinich, and agree with a lot that he says, but....
.... I don't have a lot of confidence in his ability to be a particularly good President. (Yah, a lot better than gw, but c'mon - that's setting the bar pretty low.)

I get the feeling (based on insufficient evidence, admittedly) that he's long on idealism, and short on practical requirements. Like Nader in that respect, although without the bombastic ego.

I could be convinced otherwise - I'd have to see more of him in action. That's my impression though.

Oh - and is he an out-and-out pacifist? If so, that would be an example of what I mean by long-on-idealism-short-on-real-world-practicality.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 11:18 AM
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26. I believe
he voted to go into Afghanistan. He does know his responsibility to our country. He promised he would vote for what was good for the country even if he did not personally agree with it (abortion as an example, he was able to come up with a plan he could live with after educating himself about what it really means to the citizens of this country).
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 01:44 PM
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31. They way he ran his '04 campaign
suggests he may still not be the best administrator for an executive position.
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Uncle Roy Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 10:17 AM
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23. In 04 he said "Out of Iraq now" and "Single-payer health". I voted for him
My friends were worried about "electability" and all that talking-head horse-race crap, but I think that if you vote for the guy whose policies will be best for the country, the electability will take care of itself.

At least I hope it will. Some day.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 12:02 PM
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29. We do, and it still doesn't make us
a kick ass party. Want me to name some? Sherrod Brown, Lynn Woolsey, Barbara Lee, McGovern, Frank, and practically every other rep from MA, Bernie, etc, etc. There are a lot of progressives. Unfortunately, they're still outnumbered by the moderates and conservatives.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 02:09 PM
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32. Yep. Here's some proof of DK's brilliance and excellent judgement:
The Bloodstained Path
by U.S. Congressman Dennis Kucinich
The Progressive

November 2002 issue

Unilateral military action by the United States against Iraq is unjustified, unwarranted, and illegal. The Administration has failed to make the case that Iraq poses an imminent threat to the United States. There is no credible evidence linking Iraq to 9/11. There is no credible evidence linking Iraq to Al Qaeda. Nor is there any credible evidence that Iraq possesses deliverable weapons of mass destruction, or that it intends to deliver them against the United States.
more
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/11.04D.kucinich.path.htm

Dennis as Prez would be a fascist's worst nightmare come true.
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