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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:07 AM
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"If we don't control the world, the world will control us,". Is this the
talking point of the day? How many times are we going to hear it. This is from Duncan Hunter who was given a lot of time on C-Span this morning.

I have had my fill of Congresspeople bragging about all their trips to Iraq. I can't take this anymore.

It all leads to Iran. They have set up Iraq so that they can move the relevant troops to Iran.

So, if anyone is gong to follow this - care to count the number of times they say -

If we don't control the world, the world will control us?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:21 AM
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1. The vision of imperialists! Doesn't this go against the teachings of
'Christianity'?
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RoseMead Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:26 AM
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4. It also goes against the teachings of common sense.
We can't "control the world," period.

When individuals talk this way, we call them control freaks and suggest a trip to the therapist.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:22 AM
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2. "If we're not stupid, then the world will be stupid"..nt
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:23 AM
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3. Why can't we all just get along?
And give up the control issue. It's just not healthy. x(
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:38 AM
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5. A sane mind boggles at the fallacy.
There's no room for cooperation. There's no room for self-control. It's the fevered 'thinking' of a greedy, self-centered child living in the fear he won't get his way and throwing a tantrum. That any member of the House could voice such insanity and not be put in a straitjacket is testimony to the terrible state of our mental health care infrastructure.

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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:49 AM
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6. Sounds like baseline, PNAC, principles
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:57 AM
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7. Fulfilling the needs of PNAC
The following article tells some of the reasoning behind the founding of PNAC...NEW AMERICAN CENTURY.
Please not the same general talking points...here we go with that one nation domination thing.
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From Common Dreams.org



PNAC was launched by Kristol and Kagan in 1997, shortly after their publication of an article in Foreign Affairs magazine entitled "Toward a Neo-Reaganite Foreign Policy", in which they called for Washington to exercise "benevolent global hegemony" to be sustained "as far into the future as possible".

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It was in this spirit that the two co-founded PNAC, whose charter was signed by leading neo-conservatives, including Cheney's future chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby; Rumsfeld's future deputy, Paul Wolfowitz; Bush's future top Middle East aide, Elliott Abrams; his future ambassador to Afghanistan and Iraq, Zalmay Khalilzad; Rumsfeld's future top international security official, Peter Rodman; American Enterprise Institute (AEI) fellow and neo-cons impresario Richard Perle, and Florida Gov. Jeb Bush; as well as Cheney and Rumsfeld themselves.

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That paper, which was developed by then-Undersecretary of Defence Wolfowitz, Libby, Khalilzad, and the current deputy national security adviser, J.D. Crouch, with assistance from Perle and other like-minded defence specialists, called for the "benevolent domination by one power" (the U.S.) to replace "collective internationalism" and for Washington to ensure that domination, particularly in Eurasia, in order to prevent the emergence, by confrontation if necessary, of any possible regional or global rival.

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It was PNAC's role to sustain and propagate these ideas through its reports, its periodic letters and statements signed by right-wing notables, and a steady flow of opinion-pieces and essays, that acted as part of a larger neo-conservative "echo chamber" that included Kristol's Weekly Standard, Fox News, the Washington Times, and the editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal, to frame debates in official Washington and the mainstream media.


more at:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0613-05.htm
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