Simply Unelectable

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Simply Unelectable

How can it be permissible
She compromise my principle, yeah yeah
That kind of love is mythical
She’s anything but typical

She’s a craze you’d endorse, she’s a powerful force
You’re obliged to conform when there’s no other course
She used to look good to me, but now I find her

Simply unelectable
Simply unelectable

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How can it be permissible
She compromise my principle, yeah yeah
That kind of love is mythical
She’s anything but typical

Her loving is so powerful, huh
It’s simply unavoidable
The trend is irreversible
The woman is invincible

She’s a natural law, and she leaves me in awe
She deserves the applause, I surrender because
She used to look good to me, but now I find her

Simply unelectable
Simply unelectable

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Simply unelectable she’s so fine, there’s no tellin’ where the money went
Simply unelectable she’s all mine, there’s no other way to go

She’s unavoidable, I’m backed against the wall
She gives me feelings like I never felt before
I’m breaking promises, she’s breaking every law
She used to look good to me, but now I find her

Simply unelectable
She’s so fine, there’s no tellin’ where the money went
Simply unelectable she’s all mine, there’s no other way to
Go

Her methods are inscrutable
The proof is irrefutable, ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh
She’s so completely kissable, huh
Our lives are indivisible

She’s a craze you’d endorse, she’s a powerful force
You’re obliged to conform when there’s no other course
She used to look good to me, but now I find her

Simply unelectable
Simply unelectable

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She’s so fine, there’s no tellin’ where the money went
Simply unelectable she’s all mine, there’s no other way to go
She’s so fine, there’s no tellin’ where the money went
Simply unelectable she’s all mine, there’s no other way to go

Simply unelectable

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(With apologies to the late Robert Palmer)

the pro-Hillary crowd who just refuse to see what she is. Hands out for corporate money, pro-war, and weak on pricipals if she thinks it will make the middle happy.

Some of us just don't care to bash Dems when we could be bashing republicans. Keep on with the self-serving posts though - they are here to provoke a response - here is one...

have we nothing better to do? :eyes:

I'm laughing out loud. Very funny, and spot-on!

TC

Who are you supporting? I'll go find the worst possible picture of him and ridicule him too. What's the point of this?

Hey, at this point I'm not really ecstatic about the choices. What I really care about is that the Democratic nominee gets elected. She ain't it.

That's the only point I'm making. And, it's not idiotic.

You, too, should worry about that, before we another candidate picked by the same neoliberals who've managed and lost the last three elections for the Democratic Party.

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And yes, I believe it's idiotic to tear apart of democrat on a democratic website by posting an unflattering picture and ridiculing her with lyrics from a song. If you don't support her and want to sway others to your way of thinking, this isn't the way to do it.

Should I post happy faces and I LUV HIL smilies? :-)

the right choice? That'd be a start.

I already said that my main beef with Hillary is that I find her . . . unelectable.
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What, did you think we were going to forget who lost the 2000 election that threw us into this pit?

Not likely.

Always popular on DU.

There are plenty of repukes we could be bashing, but nooooooooo - let's pile on - it's so easy & requires SO LITTLE THOUGHT :(

to see Dems tear other dems down right before an election...

I wish some Duers would use their heads more.

Hillary is their choice for us, not who we would pick ourselves.

And, I'm going to fight like hell to stop that from happening again.

Getting a winning candidate is much more important than a false face of unity.

Particularly, two plus years before the Convention.

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Who are you offering for her seat and why aren't they running against her?

Extremely lame reasoning there...

ANY form here on this board, feelings of anti-Hillary-ism. I cannot help but wonder why our fellow Democrats here at DU feel it necessary to attack and/or question our right to express our feelings about potential candidates if those candidates do no m atch their own choices.

We need to discuss our preferences and our reasons for those preferences as well as why we do not support certain candidates.

I for one, do not appreciate being told who the candidate is by the media, the Republican Party and the DLC. It is MY vote and MY right to have a say in the choice of candidates.

absolutely clear. She's unelectable.

unelectable why?

Hillary has high negatives, both within the GOP and the left-wing of the Democratic Party. She'll mobilize the opposition while turning off the activist grassroots of her own party.

The GOP campaign against her is already fully scripted. They know how to brand her, and believe me she's got lots of scars. On her, it stuck, unfortunately -- and that makes her a weak candidate.

Her demographics aren't the best as a reach-out candidate to the center, which is the territory she claims as her natural constituency.

Personally, in addition to electability issues, I have a problem with Hillary because she's been a laggard rather than a leader on issues that are of greatest importance to me as a progressive -- Iraq, in particular -- where she is not actually a fellow GOP traveller or DINO.

If Hillary had teamed with Murtha early and strongly, she would be much more attractive to me. And, I think, the majority of the American people now agree that Iraq was a terrible mistake, and want a pro-defense/anti-Iraq war President. She isn't that, at all.

In fact, I agree with those thoughts.

except I'm not sure I understood the first part of what you were trying to say:

"With all due respect, it does not seem possible to mention in ANY form here on this board, feelings of anti-Hillary-ism."

Not like a candidate or possible candidate is one thing, but this? This is not constructive at all. I expect this from the right wing. And no, I'm not a Hillary fan, in fact, I don't really care for her that much.

Read the lyrics - they describe the problems with Hillary's candidacy to a tee.

Accurate parody is a good in itself, particularly where it serves a good cause, such as criticizing a bad candidate, and helping to clear the deck for someone who is electable. :kick:

Sorry... I appreciate most other things you post, but really have to disagree. We need to be united and careful about what we say about our own. It's bad enough the MSM tears our people apart, I see no reason for us to parrot the sentiment in general.

What tripe is that?

I think we need to be more united against the pablum candidates the DLC, the media and the Republicans want to foist on us.

We'll never get representation for the average American if we continue to nominate corporate panderers on both sides of political aisle.

nor was I alluding to it. I myself do not back Hillary, but I will not bash her either. That's all.

I don't understand what you mean by this"

"Not like a candidate or possible candidate is one thing, but this? This is not constructive at all. I expect this from the right wing."

What I mean by my previous post is that I have mentioned a few times on DU that I do not want to see Hillary as a presidential candidate only to be attacked with a slew of Hillary supporters. Frankly, I feel that Hillary was selected FOR US by the Republicans because it was mainly on mainstream media outlets that feature rw pundits that we heard about her being our prime contender for the race. I know that I didn't think up her possible candidacy and I only saw Hillary supporters come out after the media began to tout her name. But if one posts an opinion about her, Hillary-supporting posters come out of the woodwork demanding all kinds of research and proof FOR AN OPINION FOR GOD'S SAKE! It makes me wonder if they are Republicans they way they support her. Most liberals that I know are very much against her running for the presidency.

It is bad enough that she is my senator. I do not feel that Hillary represents any issues that are important to me. I have written to her many times to ask her to support or not support some issue or to speak out, etc. I used to get a lousy form letter. The new form letter they send now is improved but it still does not address the issue that I may be concerned with.

It seems ridiculous that I either claim to support her because some other DUers demand that kind of loyalty or that I not express my views regarding her, or a couple others potential candidates and therefore have my opinion suppressed so that Republicans cannot see us disagree among ourselves.
That, to me, is not constructive.

I am not trying to pressure you to support her.

You are trying to minimize this headline bash festival - not buying it.

This is not the only way to criticize, is it?

Hillary haters have been putting up threads and posts at a rate of about 10 to 1 of pro-Hillary threads and posts. And by and large they're dishonest on the facts, mindless on the politics, or like this one here, just plain shitty.

You sound like a whiner. Feel free to assault one of the most likely Dem Presidential candidates for 2008 with your childish venom just like you did to Al Gore in 2000. We'll feel free to respond any way we want to.

The RW media invested a lot of time and money into demonizing her, in portraying her as a flaming leftist radical. They're just setting her up to knock her down.

I haven't seen any indication that they intend to play up grass roots opposition to her. And they must have surely noticed that by now. They're not complete idiots. I listen regularly to Rush and Hannity just to get a sense of what they're up to. So far, they're still playing the same "Hillary is unstoppable" tune.

You know who they're really scared of? Clark. Some GOP strategist once said that Clark would be a nightmare, because he has no skeletons in his closet. Nothing there to attack. They would have to fight on the issues. And that REALLY scares them.

Even Gore gives them the willies, but they've got their playbook already written for him. It's just a rewrite of the 2000 campaign, with some anti-Global Warming scares thrown in.

I'm not too concerned that Dems are seen fighting over who should get in. They can't win elections on that alone.

As long as it doesn't get nasty.

HUGE difference.

It's the constant in-fighting and bashing of another Democrat. I don't think that helps the party at all. Replacing them does, but showing the blogosphere that we are so fractured as a political party just isn't smart. Sorry... most people I talk to who read stuff here tell me the same thing. And right before an election on top of it. Opinions and criticism is different from bashing. BIG DIFFERENCE THERE TOO.

Bash away...

the iwr vote in particular.
i will NEVER support, and actively campaign AGAINST- ANY candidate who voted for it.
my conscience demands it.

just asking people to restrain from bashing as much.

PS - I DO NOT SUPPORT HILLARY EITHER and I have no need to bash her. That's all I'm saying.

hillary bashes herself by voting like a repuke.

and i don't mind pointing it out as often as possible.

people NEED to be reminded...

after all- All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing...

don't ask or expect me to do nothing.

While ignoring my point that this is pure divisive shit. Hopefully we can work together instead of infighting. Peace.

and will actively seek to oust them from office.

It's all about me. Me, me, me, me, me! Who cares about all those Dems who just want to win back control of the House first before they clean house. No, we have to cut off our nose to spite our face. Let's go to a Dem site and attack - um - Dems!!

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it's all about you you you... :eyes:

makes me sick :puke:

We really, really have to no mater what we say to each other.

Please explain how a (D) next to a Congresspersons name does not indicate the Democratic party.

that's how.
do the research...look at the voting patterns.
the dlc is comprised of corporatists masquerading as democrats, and i for one will no longer waste my votes on them.

We need ALL the Democratic seats we can get or we are going to be the minority party for a LONG time to come.

Is a DLCer running in your district?

If there is, would you allow the Repukes to control Congress for 2 more years just to make a point?

All posturing aside, you will vote for the Democrat this fall, no matter what. Either that or you want to do this for two more years --> :banghead:

you can't purge the party of the dlc by supporting its candidates.

it feels like i've been banging my head against the wall ever since carter left office- why stop now?

I guess the conversation is over then - you would destroy all of our lives by allowing Repukes to have THEIR agenda - which makes the DLC agenda look left-wing!! But, just keep sitting on your high-horse, all alone, while you watch the rest of us giving money and support to ALL Dems in order to WIN back the House from the RW morons - who you apparently would prefer over Dems who you don't agree with. I can't stand people who think like this - you are wasting our energy - this is ridiculous - selfishness gone beyond any resonable self-control - makes me sick :puke:

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These bash DEMOCRATS threads have had the opposite effect on this bleeding heart LIBERAL to the point that I will not even consider donating time, effort, or money to anyone other than those "bashees/hatees" hence my new avatar..hell, I'm tempted to go "DLC/whatever" ...

eta: correct link I hope

my dlc fuckwad of a representative.

Hope you don't mind my stealing your ignoretheignorant super-sized gif. The damn list just gets longer and longer and longer...wonder where most of these iti's were in Nov 2004 and especially in Nov 2000...:shrug:

If you click on "My DU" it's just the icon for the ignore list. But yeah, with less than five months to go, I'm trying to avoid getting dragged into time sinks until then.

But good concept

Still love that song. It was a big hit in '88. That and Riptide, which might translate into good political satire later on in the selection process, if we're fortunate to have two good choices.

Riptide

Riptide caught in a riptide

Torn between two loves the old and the new

Riptide lost in a riptide

Where will it take me what shall I do?

My heart is tossed on a sea of emotion

One love offers romance the other devotion

The new love is calling the old love is pleading

I'm caught in a riptide what shall I do?



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:rofl:

Do you mind if I print this up and mail it back in her next fundraiing envelope? I will send it to the DNC and DLC as well! This is a beauty!

:applause:

Feel free to do as you like with it.:hi: :kick:

leave DU for a few weeks. It is stupid and beneath comment. Most of you Hillary snots can't even think rationally. Why are you vicious and relentless in your hatred. War vote is bull and you know it. You hate women and your very vocal about it. Discrimination because of gender is a republican trait. The same people who hate Hillary seem to despise all women in government.

I don't hate Hillary Clinton, I just don't back her stance on Iraq and that IWR vote is a big deal to me though it may not be to you. For those who realize it was a diastrous mistake and who are working to end the bloody quagmire I have a little more respect.

I don't hate women, nor women in government as some are absolutely amazing to me. I don't want Hillary to run in '08 because for reasons already mentioned in this thread, I think she will be unelectable.

On the other hand, I enjoyed watching Carol Mosely-Braun during the primary season of '04 and sent her a couple of small checks.

I'm not a woman-hatin' woman.

I mean, simply open the Rove playbook and fire away - it is SO beneath us it isn't funny.

Who knew?

Simple facts here, folks.

I realize that many here will toss your response into the "Hill-haters" bin, but they're wrong. They're as wrong as the RWers who try to dismiss criticism of Beloved Leader as being nothing but "Bush Bashing".

She can't win the general election. PERIOD! (prove me wrong, pollyanna)

Let's pick someone better. Ya know...someone who isn't a goddamn centrist war-monger.

...and thus made no point at all.

See you in November.

But, I see the lockstep "not as bad" bunch are here to whine.

not our fellow Democrats. I would vote for Hillary in a heartbeat. Any Democrat would be better for me.

Whether sie can win depends almost entirely on how she will run her campaign.

who gets elected President. It's those millions of others out there who would vote for the right Democratic candidate, but who would be easily persuaded not to vote for Hillary who will determine the outcome.

This isn't posted to start a fight with other Democrats, or even to attack Hillary (I like her in some ways), it's to warn those who don't seem to understand how vulnerable a candidate she actually is. That's all. :kick:

such a despicable goofy-looking image of him, like what you did with Hillary, in a feeble attempt at driving a point home. Your dumb post will inspire anyone who's against certain Democrats to post equally hateful pictures of any candidate who strikes fear in their souls like what Hillary does to you.


Are you going to tell me that the picture you posted isn't meant to attack Hillary? You're full of it up to your ears.

Bashing a candidate is one thing, but using a hateful picture is just a right wing way of doing it. Have some fucking respect.

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About a very electable Woman.

It's just not her time for the big one, but we need her in the Senate.

is not because you believe Clinton is unelectable, but because you simply used a goofy looking picture of Hillary to inspire hatred towards her. You also took one of my all-time favorite songs and butchered it like someone would do who's sitting in a junior high school study hall with too much time on their hands.

It's one thing to say Clinton is unelectable, but to use that particular picture instead of explaining why she's unelectable shows that you have about as much hope of convincing anyone as you do in being a song writer.