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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:25 PM
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Larry Johnson: George Bush Sanctioned Rape Rooms?
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 06:27 PM by kpete
George Bush Sanctioned Rape Rooms?
by
Larry C Johnson

As they say at the Pottery Barn, you break, you buy it. I don't think President George W. Bush has enough in his piggy bank to cover the cost of the horror he is helping perpetuate in Iraq. Today's Washington Post reports that the Shias running Iraqi prisons are engaged in the kinds of abuse last seen when Saddam was in power.

According to the Post http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/15/AR2006061502180_2.html:

On Saturday, a group of parliament members paid a surprise visit to a detention facility run by the Interior Ministry in Baqubah, north of Baghdad. "We have found terrible violations of the law," said Muhammed al-Dayni, a Sunni parliament member who said as many as 120 detainees were packed into a 35-by-20-foot cell. "They told us that they've been raped," Dayni said. "Their families were called in and tortured to force the detainees to testify against other people."

"The detention facilities of the ministries of Defense and Interior are places for the most brutal human rights abuse," he added.


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I cannot wait to watch how George and Condi will square this circle. We're helping a group of Shia religious extremists who have close ties to Iran consolidate power in Iraq. Meanwhile, we're threatening Iran with dire consequences if they don't surrender their nuclear program. This Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde policy is getting our kids killed and putting our security at risk. And now, worst of all, on top of the abuses of Abu Ghraib, we are perceived as tolerating, if not sanctioning, the torture and rape of Sunni prisoners.

Will George and Rummy wind up at the Hague some day and be asked to answer for Saddam style rape rooms? Just a thought.

more at:
http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/06/george_bush_san.html
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:27 PM
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1. You know those orders came from the top
with Ashcroft and Gonzales making sure they could get around the law...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:12 PM
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13. exactly, it is so transparent, but they have gotten away with it... so far
thanks to the MSM.


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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:32 PM
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2. My God...
what have we done? What kind of monsters have we let loose on the world?

:cry:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:35 PM
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3. If Dimson wants all the credit, he damn well better take all the blame.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:52 PM
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9. I agree completely
He gets it all. He wants "credit" for the "good things" he should take credit for all of the "good things" about this war!

He said for years that we were going to stop this sort of behavior. Guess stopping this stuff hasn't reached the top of the list of priorities yet, huh?

I can't stand this administration!!! When do the grown ups take over again?
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:41 PM
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4. Larry Johnson is heating up
and not waiting for anyone.

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:24 PM
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15. There he goes again! Dropping another SHITBOMB...
:patriot: NGU. Ever.

Thank you, Mr. Johnson. You are a true, American patriot!
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:27 PM
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16. bombs away
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:04 PM
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21. Joshua Frank (Bush's Brain) says Bush projects his own failings on Iraqi's
In an interview posted here he went into great detail about how Bush is a "Manic" and they tend to project their own thoughts and feelings onto others. He said in in Bush's Iraq comeback speech last week that Bush's ravings about the Iraqi government being trusted by the "people" are Bush's own fears that his government is not trusted by the people.

So...one could maybe speculate his "dark side" when he went on and on about "Rape Pits" by Saddam in the lead up and aftermath of the Invasion, every time he gave a speech. So, I wouldn't doubt he'd get guilty pleasure in whatever goes on in Iraq...just like he has Saddam's gun on display in the Oval Office.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:44 PM
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5. This whole mess becomes more despicable
each day. The Occupation, is making the people of Iraq do for them, what Americans' would condemn ourselves for doing. They are making the people of the county do our bidding so we won't get in trouble. There is no accountability in this whole big modern world. No over site, no condemnation, no judgment, no prosecution, no punishment, no accountability. Nothing can stop American from trampling human civil rights in the world. Where are the world court and the united nations....impotent, dead, disabled, quaint, forgotten, lost to us. What despair. What brutality. What hypocrisy. What irony.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:44 PM
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6. Kicked and recommended that shrub and his boobs do hard
time on planet earth.... NOW.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:48 PM
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7. K&R.
It's exhausting...the evil is so blatant that people must simply be in shock and denial in this country.

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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 10:06 PM
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18. I knew we were in big trouble as a nation...
...when, soon after 9-11, the MSM began carrying "debates" on whether or not torture should be permitted. Torture permitted? F*cking no! Under no circumstances. Period.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:50 PM
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8. Catch Democracy Now - three psychologists* on psychological
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 06:52 PM by higher class
contribution to prisoner torment are interviewed and debate for most of the program.

Three guests - two ran around the issues and seemed to claim innocence (one retired from the military). The third was blunt.

American Psyciatric Assn and AMA have refused (or have recommended) that no members participate in psychological techniques to get them to talk.

However, it appears some in the American Psychological Assn are said to be participating. Other members of Amer PsychologocalAssn are going to try to protext -starting with a petition.

The backlash on Americans from George and PNAC are going to hurt us for decades,,, if we survive our own leadership that long.

I condemn every American supportgin this - including Demcocrats.

Why does inhumanity reign right now? Why does it have to be us who are inhuman?
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nolies32fouettes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:53 PM
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10. when will it stop being so bad?!!!
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 06:57 PM
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11. See French occupation of Indochina....that's us in Iraq ....
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:10 PM
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12. Hung from chains
"Inmates in another photo clustered around chains hung from the middle of one of the crowded cells. The chains were used to hoist prisoners by their bound hands, Zobaie said. The practice, noted frequently in inspection reports of Interior Ministry detention centers, often results in the dislocation of prisoners' shoulders."

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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:59 AM
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19. Strappado
If this is the form of torture I think it is, they tie a person's hands behind their back, and then the chain to the bound hands, and then they hoist the prisoner up by the chain. It dislocates shoulders.

This form of torture was used extensively in the Spanish Inquisition, and there are rumors that it is used in Israel. It is also called a "Palestinian hanging".

Things have gone medieval in Iraq, it seems, and we are responsible for it.

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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:15 PM
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14. Wasn't Rumsfeld supposed to have sat in on some torture?
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:46 PM
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17. K&R

:patriot:

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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:10 AM
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20. Bushites don't care at all about American soldiers or Iraqis
they don't care about death or torture. On Chris Matthews show this morning, one of the speakers pointed out that they sent 400 CIA people to look for WMD in Iraq and only 27 advisers for military strategy. They only care about getting into the war, not winning it. Criminals. Hooligans. I wish the army would revolt against this.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 06:03 PM
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22. Haiti 10 years ago.
It's kind of sad. We've turned into Haiti of10, 20, 30 years ago. Dictatorship for life, torture, death squads. No disagreement tolerated, but an upper class allowed to flourish on the backs of a bunch of starving people.

Granted, our lower class isn't starving yet. Let's give it another 40 years, and I guess they (or we?) will be by then.

Yes, there is a US Constitution, that supposedly has made all that's happened impossible, but it has been ... I don't know, demonstrated to be ... silly? unnecessary? what?
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