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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:15 PM
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Poll question: Does US Health Care Discriminate between Men and Women?
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 07:16 PM by KoKo01
Is there a difference between a Female who has Colon Cancer, or other Cancers and Males who have Quintuple Bypass Heart Surgery, Colin Cancer or Prostate Cancer? Do Females who Have Breast Cancer get more treatment than Males who have Prostrate Cancer and do Females who have Cervical Cancer get better treatment tha Males who run in Marathons?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:33 PM
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1. U.S. healthcare discriminates against the truth.... and for that
they should hang their heads in shame.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/068816627X/ref=si3_rdr_bb_product/002-7498499-7428002?%5Fencoding=UTF8

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/068816627X.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


Murray ( The Encylopedia of Natural Medicine , LJ 5/1/91) has written another excellent book offering an alternative to traditional healthcare. He does more than merely list alternatives to over-the-counter and prescription drugs; his book also includes information on the causes of diseases, the side effects of both drug and herbal therapies, and practical advice on diet and exercise. A section on staying healthy is particularly good since it doesn't overwhelm the reader with too much information. Murray presents a good balance between the advantages and disadvantages of both natural remedies and conventional medical treatment. Although libraries that own the more in-depth encyclopedia by the author may not need this work, it belongs in all other libraries as one of the best guides to healthy living. With an excellent bibliography; highly recommended.
- Natalie Kupferberg, Montana State Univ. Lib., Bozeman
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conflictgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:35 PM
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2. Where was the "I have no insurance" option?
We haven't been thrown off our insurance because of health reasons, we just don't have insurance, period.
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AmyDeLune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:28 PM
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12. Ditto! n/t
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PWRinNY Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:43 PM
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3. Yes, absolutely discriminatory
Ever notice how so many conditions go undiagnosed in a woman because it's a man's illness? Or vice-versa?

How about when doctors don't listen to you - the patient - and just whip out their rx pads and give you pills that have worse side effects than the ailment you went in for? That happened to me - and eventually all the doctors just dissed me. Why? Because I'm a woman? Maybe. I wanted an MRI. Doctor said no. Because he knew so much? So much that he misdiagnosed me and made me worse? Gave me worse problems than I went in for? Or was it because the insurance company didn't want to pay for the MRI?

How many lives could be saved if decisions could be made by the PATIENTS? What if doctors actually cared about finding the ROOT of a problem, rather than seeing who can sell the most pills to please their drug company gods? What if doctors and patients could work together to fix a problem - rather than being told by some number cruncher at an INSURANCE COMPANY what we can and can't do to improve our lives and even survive? Because insurance companies see stats and say "she's a woman - that's statistically a man's illness" and won't pay for treatment, or "he can't have breast cancer, he's a man."

It's sickening how this system works. Who even cares about curing a patient anymore? It's all about the money. Greed, greed, greed.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 07:46 PM
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4. Yes. The majority of the mandates states have passed
are to require coverage for conditions that are exclusive to or more common in women and children.

And let's not forget all those plans that cover Viagra, but won't pay for birth control.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:16 PM
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5. What passes for health care in this country is expensive and not very good
I'd say our worst problem right now (and it's an emergency of gargantuan proportions) is not whether women are discriminated or not in the medical sphere, but the fact that SO MANY people have zero health care because health care in this country is not a right.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 08:57 PM
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6. Until just a few years ago, all medical research was done on white
men and the findings applied to everyone. So a lot of medicines that worked for white men didn't work for women, and vice versa. A lot of doctors think a lot of women's problems are in their mind. Not sure if that applies to a lot of male patients, but I've met a lot of women who get this and been subjected to it myself.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:43 PM
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16. bingo
While this may not be intentional discrimination, the ramifications are still the same.
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silvertip Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:32 PM
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7. Medical
   More than likely there is a certain amount of
discrimination going on in a lot of areas and I for one think
that a great many of our problems with medical issues of all
kinds could be eliminated by having universal health care in
this country provided by the govt. and paid for with our tax
money.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:37 PM
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8. Absolutely
The California Supreme Court yesterday agreed to decide whether doctors had a legal right to refuse to perform artificial insemination on a lesbian.

http://www.metnews.com/articles/2006/conf061506.htm
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:47 PM
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9. I lost my female parts because of bad medicine.
Had nothing to do with insurance coverage. Went to my family doctor about painful gyno symptoms. He referred me to a GYN, who quickly decided it was all stress from getting a divorce a year earlier. That same week I went back to family doc (a fabulous doc BTW) who ran the tests himself and also referred me to GYN #2 - which took 2 weeks as a new patient and a "fit in" to his surgical schedule 10 days later (would have taken 8 weeks if not for family doc pushing). The consensus is that I could have at least saved ovaries if faster treatment had been done.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:52 PM
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10. none of the above...
Those who can barely pay for an incurable illness like diabetes or cancer have the most difficulty saving money for retirement or to help their children. There is no such thing as being too young to have a medical problem and even those who have been paying premiums for years are equally dumped on regardless of gender..and told they have a preexisting condition!!

Gender has nothing to do with paying premiums for decades, and then losing this coverage once diagnosed with a medical problem!! :grr:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:06 PM
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11. kick......
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:32 PM
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13. It depends on who's got the most money.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:34 PM
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14. studies show men get better treatment than women n/t
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:41 PM
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15. this is a badly worded poll but the answer to your question is "yes"
the usa health care system does discriminate between men and women, heart disease being a number one killer of women, yet be a thin women and try to get accurately diagnosed of heart disease, good luck

my mom was almost killed because she reported being tired and the stupid doctor tried to give her an anti-depressant instead of checking further, after all, a woman of a certain age who is slim but of an age to be losing her physical beauty must be bitter and depressed, it's impossible for her to be in need of quadruple bypass surgery

she did get the surgery in time but only because she finally had a severe classic chest pain attack which allowed the doctors to figure it out

too often a diagnosis of depression is given to women, who are presumed to be bitter and unhappy just by virtue of being women, instead of a real investigation taken of their symptoms

not all the time, maybe not even a majority of the time, but it happens enough to be a real risk to women -- and this happened to my mom in the 21st century not the last millennium either

NEVER accept a diagnosis of depression until other symptoms are ruled out, the lost time in getting care for cancer or heart disease could be deadly

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