RANDALL SAMBORN INDICATES FITZGERALD’S PLAME INVESTIGATION MAY HAVE BEEN S

I couldn't find this anywhere else. I would have put it in LBN, but the date is June 14th.
http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/2006/06/randall-samborn-indicates-fitzgeralds.html

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Fitzgerald met with chief U.S. District Judge Thomas Hogan before he notified Rove. Hogan has been overseeing the grand juries in the CIA leak case. Fitzgerald's spokesman,

Randall Samborn, declined comment. Asked if the CIA leak investigation is still continuing, Samborn said, "I'm not commenting on that as well at this time."


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/13/ap/politics/mainD8I7C7N00.shtml

This is a blockbuster quote. You would think that if Fitzgerald were still investigating the Plame leak, his press officer would tell the public this is an ongoing investigation. And if Fitz had completed his investigation, one would expect Samborn to say that the investigation is complete.

After all, the investigation must be open or closed, right? I’ve never heard of an investigation that’s neither open nor closed. Have you?

long article and some interesting thoughts.

They have an obligation not to cast shades of guilt over people who they aren't bringing charges against and may never bring charges against. Didn't anyone listen when Fitz gave his Libby indictment press conference?

No, Starr didn't follow this rule, but he damned well should have.

at his press conference for the Libby indictment.

Yep.

;(

Fits all the facts w/o assuming that anyone's completely lying through their teeth (but merely parsing words to an extremity). Worth the read simply for the brief tutorial on the difference btw indictments and presentments.

Thanks for the post.

the investigation automatically continue until the conclusion of any trials?

Would investigators be working to rebut claims made by the defense?

These guys are nazis.

What an act of treason? No problem.

Fair elections? :rofl:

When the Supreme Court stopped the Florida vote count America might have died.

Amurka was born. :cry:

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I didn't realize this was a conspiracy theory site...I'll recognize it next time...but for now, I'm off to get my :tinfoilhat:

What makes citizenspook a "conspiracy theory website" any more than say TrouthOut?

...means "no comment".

:shrug: My brain hurts and I'm not even a Mason...

said "No comment" because--after the Luskin/Rove item--if he'd said "Yes" to "on-going investigation," the next question would have been, "Who are you targeting?", and he didn't want to discuss that.

"No comment" is standard for Fitz & Co. I wouldn't read this much into it. I'm all for trying to read entrails--what else can we do these days? But this reading seems extreme, and may be completely wrong. There are plenty of facts that say otherwise.

I think it's more likely that Fitz just caught a very big fish, indeed--that he succeeded in pressuring Rove into testifying under oath at the Libby trial. He had Rove on perjury. He used it to gain his cooperation. The conspiracy in this case, and the crime(s) involved, go beyond Rove, to Cheney and Rumsfeld. The trial of Libby for perjury and obstruction is a means to get at the larger conspiracy. For one thing, if the White House didn't cooperate, then Libby--who's named Rove and others as witnesses he will call--can claim that he can't defend himself, and get his case dismissed. Fitz also may need to call Rove and others for the prosecution, or is intending to cross-examine them. The probable scenario that Rove just caved under Fitz pressure--with the possible deal that Rove got to control the newsstream for a while--would explain what happened with Leopold/TO's sources who were so certain that Rove had been indicted. If the sources weren't outright just burning Leopold/TO (a possibility), they may have mistaken a serious threat by Fitz to indict Rove as definite that he had been indicted--but events behind the scenes outran their knowledge. Fitz could even have written up papers. He did write up and file something--the mysterious "Sealed v Sealed," which some have speculated is "Fitz v Gonzales"--meaning possibly that Gonzales tried to intervene to get the pressure off Rove, and got smacked down by Fitz, who also has the goods on (torture memo writer, lying Bush Cartel toady) AG Gonzales for obstruction (early on) in this case.

It's not outside of possibility that Fitz lost the power game with the White House, gave up, got bought, got overruled, was colluding from the beginning, etc., etc. I wouldn't put anything outside of possibility with this criminal gang that has seized our country. But the known facts point instead to a methodical, straight-arrow prosecutor, aimed at the main question: Who conspired to out Plame and Brewster-Jennings and why (the why being--as he has stated--a grave matter of national security)? Rove is a political operative, and would not likely be the one who initiated this assault on the CIA. That would have to be Cheney or Rumsfeld or both. The BS that it was Rove acting rashly to punish Plame's husband for his dissenting article on Iraq nukes was a cover story (probably invented by Libby to make Rove the fall guy). I've no sympathy with Rove, but I think he was just following orders on this crime, not the mastermind of it.

I said last month that a Rove indictment for perjury would be something of a failure for Fitz, because he would now have TWO perjurers and obstructors. His purpose is not to have perjury trials--gratifying as it would be to see Rove (the perp of many OTHER crimes) in the dock. His purpose is to crack the conspiracy. It looks to me like he may have just made some headway toward that end.