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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:19 AM
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Anti-whaling nations win 'GREAT VICTORY' against Japan proposals
Anti-whaling nations win 'great victory' against Japan proposals
By Charles Clover, Environment Editor
(Filed: 17/06/2006)

Japan suffered an unexpected and total defeat when it tried to start attacking a 20-year-old ban on commercial whaling at the International Whaling Commission's meeting in the Caribbean state of St Kitts and Nevis last night.

The member countries of the UN whaling treaty voted down two proposals by Japan - the most significant one for secret ballots so that small Pacific and Caribbean nations that receive Japanese aid could unpick the protection of whales without fear of retribution.

Conservationists had feared that Japan would win a narrow majority

The other proposal sought to prevent the commission from discussing the fate of dolphins and porpoises as well as whales.

Ian Campbell, Australia's environment minister and a leader of the anti-whaling bloc, said: "The great victory is that we have raised the levels of understanding of this issue to levels that have probably not been seen since the 1970s.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/06/17/whale17.xml
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:40 AM
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1. Here's hoping they keep the secret ballot and that the
countries Japan "helped" to join in order to exploit their vote, will continue to refuse to be exploited.

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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:42 AM
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3. AWESOME
I thought for sure Norway and Japan would get this overturned!
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:42 AM
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2. ...
Edited on Sat Jun-17-06 09:43 AM by Benhurst
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Recommended -- We need some good news around here.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:52 AM
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4. WOO-HOO
Edited on Sat Jun-17-06 09:53 AM by annces8
The Japanese should be shamed about this big time. People should boycott them in anyway if possible and send message this is why, stay away from the whales. They really don't like bad publicity.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 10:19 AM
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5. All whaling should be banned
Edited on Sat Jun-17-06 10:24 AM by kenny blankenship
Forever. No appeals, no exceptions (except for Inuit people) no more discussion.
Haven't we done enough to whales?
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 10:28 AM
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6. I don't even think . . .
. . . that the Inuits should be hunting whales.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 11:18 AM
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7. I wonder what's a worse way to go for a whale, dying from a
whaler's harpoon or from being bombarded by navy sonar.


According to a report by the scientific committee of the International Whaling Commission, one of the world's leading bodies of whale biologists, the evidence linking sonar to a series of whale strandings in recent years is "very convincing and appears overwhelming." Despite the broad scientific consensus that military active sonar kills whales, the use of this deadly sonar in the world's oceans is spreading.

An NRDC-led coalition of wildlife advocates succeeded in restricting the U.S. Navy's use of a powerful active sonar system known as SURTASS LFA in 2003. But the fight is hardly over; other nations are developing LFA-type systems of their own, and sonar testing using mid-frequency sonar systems, which have been implicated in numerous strandings of whales worldwide, continues unabated, putting marine mammals and fisheries at risk. And the Bush administration is now appealing the legal victory that compelled the Navy into compromise.

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Military active sonar works like a floodlight, emitting sound waves that sweep across tens or even hundreds of miles of ocean, revealing objects in their path. But that kind of power requires the use of extremely loud sound. Each loudspeaker in the LFA system's wide array, for example, can generate 215 decibels' worth -- sound as intense as that produced by a twin-engine fighter jet at takeoff. Some mid-frequency sonar systems can put out over 235 decibels, as loud as a Saturn V rocket at launch. Even 100 miles from the LFA system, sound levels can approach 160 decibels, well beyond the Navy's own safety limits for humans.

Evidence of the harm such a barrage of sound can do began to surface in March 2000, when whales of four different species stranded themselves on beaches in the Bahamas after a U.S. Navy battle group used active sonar in the area. Investigators found that the whales were bleeding internally around their brains and ears. Although the Navy initially denied responsibility, the government's investigation established with virtual certainty that the strandings were caused by its use of active sonar. Since the incident, the area's population of Cuvier's beaked whales has all but disappeared, leading researchers to conclude that they either abandoned their habitat or died at sea.

http://www.nrdc.org/wildlife/marine/sonar.asp
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 02:08 PM
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9. When hit with a harpoon
the idea is for the exploding head to cause sufficient damage for a quick death. The problem in that is that they're whales, so they're huge and that doesn't work so well. Generally they either drown in the lines or bleed out from the hole left by the harpoon. Neither is quick.

Sonar can cause internal bleeding in the brain and it is thought that this is what causes the strandings. Sometimes stranded whales can be saved, but often thier bodies are crushed by thier own weight when there is insufficient water to support them. There's a pretty good national geographic documentary on this called whales in crisis.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 01:29 PM
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8. Thank goodness
FINALLY some good news!
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Conan_The_Barbarian Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:08 PM
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10. pppffftt whales... who needs em!
just have one question about whales: who cares? All I ever hear are people pissing and moaning about saving the whales. Why save the whales? Screw them, what have they done for me? How would you like to go to the beach one day and read a sign that says "Sorry, all out of water." Not likely? Think again. Here's a little fact about whales that not many people know:

Whales are drinking all our water and eating our sailors.

When they're not busy ravaging the high seas, they're getting beached and rotting to death out of spite so nobody can enjoy the beach.

Then there are the people who say whales are smart. If whales are so smart, then how come they still haven't learned to breathe under water like everything else that lives in the ocean? They've only had 40-million years to do it and they still don't have their shit together. And now researchers are saying that they've found gay whales. Duh.

Is it too much to ask for a whale to save me for a change? When is the last time you procrastinated by putting up a stupid web page instead of studying and a whale saved your ass during the test? Never. In fact, when is the last time a whale did anything other than some stupid trick like jumping out of the water? Ooh, the whale can jump out of the water. Big deal. Try building an oil rig, then I'll be impressed asshole.


http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=whales_suck
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