Got my IRS letter today re VA identity screwing. I think there is

something more to this than meets the eye.

you suspect something....what is it....you can tell us! I know this isn't going to be good news.:scared:

it comes back. Also checking to see what we were trained to do. Just a snoop tactic if you ask me.

you, they only need to call the IRS.

Your former high school class president trying to locate grads for the reunion may not be able to track you down, but the gub'mint sure can if you've been following the rules.

if this doesn't do what they want do we get implants next? Aren't their satellites enough?

Have I been living in the woods too long or what?

give me the willies. BTW, if they wanted to, why didn't they put RFIDs on OBL's band of merry Islamic pranksters ?

My MOS was a 76 charlie motor pool and I now posses a CDL license. Making sure they have the correct location of all their former soldiers that are under 42 was my thinking.

Mine came a couple of days ago, and it's been more than 50 years since I got out of the army. I've already fought off a real attempt at identity theft, which happened several weeks before this alleged event.

charges and a third was sucessful. I put a freeze on my credit with the bureaus for what good that is supposed to do. How are they going to keep up with so many?

Say they send out these letters and request a reply, knowing that a certain percentage of them will not come back and they could conceivably use this as a challenge to a persons registration validity. The VA has been cut so harshly, most vets who use this service are disgusted by Congress right now so getting rid of a shit load of pissed off registrants might be what this is all about.

I was reading another thread and it dawned on me that it could be a purge. I feel a riot coming on!

Its kinda interesting that so many companies have had their data stolen or hacked the last few months. I can't even count all the ones I've read about. Its pathetic. I have a bad feeling Choice Point and the NSA are collecting all this data to use against everybody. Hard to believe this many corporations and the government would be this incompetent after so many incidents.

JG

some asshole took it home? WTF?

Had to be SSN through IRS.

Absolutely amazing how millions of us were located so quickly after the disclosure of the theft of that 'laptop'.

I agree with you on this being more than we are hearing.

S

g at the post office for a while. I'm a slow mail picker upper. Teeeehehehehehe! on edit I just realized they don't know where the fuck I am.

OMG, I could still do my MOS, but I would intentionally cause a real fine ass mess for bushitler.

the Panama (Noriega) thing.

You would not believe what we did in Panama.

I didn't really have a choice.

in an aviation squadron (Navy), and as such was in the loop for reenlistment counseling for the sailors approaching their discharge dates. One young man told me he didn't really like being in the Navy, and was getting out. I explained that there were only about (at that time) 2 million active duty service people in all the branches combined, but well over 200 million civilians in the US, a whole bunch of colleges and universities he might consider attending, and that if he really wanted to he could probably be successful outside of the Navy, and agreed that it wasn't for everyone.

Next day I was chastised by the CO for my lack of career counseling technique. Imagine that! The young man had told the CO what I had said. And I think it's even more true today.

to loose them to the higher paying privatized military.

Mehlmans pet project is Voter Vault. A database that has information on over 168 MILLION citizens.

My personal feeling is that the GOP is trying to develop a database on EVERYONE that they can.

I don;t think the information was stolen... Just "redirected" to a GOP friendly environment...

I got out in 62 and I got one. I got the same feeling when they said they were going to spy on everyone to get child pornographers. I thought there just can't be that many perves that they need to spy on all of us. I bet there are two lists one no spy list for repubs. and one spy list for registered dems.

The hair is up on the back of my neck, that's for sure.

Julie

California leads way on ID theft legislation
www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/hacking/story/0,10801,76721,00.html

""...Alan Paller, director of research at the Bethesda, Md.-based SANS Institute, said the California law is probably necessary because of the kinds of crime that are occurring. A group in Russia and Ukraine has been acquiring customer data, extorting money to prevent its release and then selling it anyway. Paller believes some companies are paying off the extortionists in an attempt to contain the damage.""

The quote from the security expert re extortion from overseas mafias means that corporations enabled the data to be stolen (your information) and they then charge the consumer for their foul ups in a furtherance of phoney 'protection', a scam upon a scam, so to speak.

Lovely. Congress and the FTC have since overruled the California law. Now look at the mess we're in.

I got the VA letter, but one from IRS?

Not sure exactly how, but that is also the reason for the wiretapping and other invasions of privacy.

revolution. Wonder how many from the group are combat ready? LOL

Hubby was livid. Me...not surprised at the incompetence at all.

forum.

I also posted a :tinfoilhat: theory on data theft in my journal.

Here’s how the scheme worked: The RNC mailed these voters letters in envelopes marked, ‘Do not forward’, to be returned to the sender. These letters were mailed to servicemen and women, some stationed overseas, to their US home addresses. The letters then returned to the Bush-Cheney campaign as “undeliverable.”

The lists of soldiers of “undeliverable” letters were transmitted from state headquarters, in this case Florida, to the RNC in Washington. The party could then challenge the voters’ registration and thereby prevent their absentee ballot being counted.

One target list was comprised exclusively of voters registered at the Jacksonville, Florida, Naval Air Station. Jacksonville is third largest naval installation in the US, best known as home of the Blue Angels fighting squandron.

< See this scrub sheet at [br />http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=160156893 ]

Our team contacted the homes of several on the caging list, such as Randall Prausa, a serviceman, whose wife said he had been ordered overseas.

A soldier returning home in time to vote in November 2004 could also be challenged on the basis of the returned envelope. Soldiers challenged would be required to vote by “provisional” ballot.

Over one million provisional ballots cast in the 2004 race were never counted; over half a million absentee ballots were also rejected. The extraordinary rise in the number of rejected ballots was the result of the widespread multi-state voter challenge campaign by the Republican Party. The operation, of which the purge of Black soldiers was a small part, was the first mass challenge to voting America had seen in two decades.

The BBC obtained several dozen confidential emails sent by the Republican’s national Research Director and Deputy Communications chief, Tim Griffin to GOP Florida campaign chairman Brett Doster and other party leaders. Attached were spreadsheets marked, “Caging.xls.” Each of these contained several hundred to a few thousand voters and their addresses.

A check of the demographics of the addresses on the “caging lists,” as the GOP leaders called them indicated that most were in African-American majority zip codes.

Ion Sanco, the non-partisan elections supervisor of Leon County (Tallahassee) when shown the lists by this reporter said: ‘The only thing I can think of - African American voters listed like this—these might be individuals that will be challenged if they attempted to vote on Election Day.’

These GOP caging lists were obtained by the same BBC team that first exposed the wrongful purge of African-American “felon” voters in 2000 by then-Secretary of State Katherine Harris. Eliminating the voting rights of those voters—94,000 were targeted—likely caused Al Gore’s defeat in that race.

The Republican National Committee in Washington refused our several requests to respond to the BBC discovery. However, in Tallahassee, the Florida Bush campaign’s spokespeople offered several explanations for the list.

Joseph Agostini, speaking for the GOP, suggested the lists were of potential donors to the Bush campaign. Oddly, the supposed donor list included residents of the Sulzbacher Center a shelter for homeless families.

Another spokesperson for the Bush campaign, Mindy Tucker Fletcher, ultimately changed the official response, acknowledging that these were voters, “we mailed to, where the letter came back—bad addresses.’

The party has refused to say why it would mark soldiers as having “bad addresses” subject to challenge when they had been assigned abroad.

The apparent challenge campaign was not inexpensive. The GOP mailed the letters first class, at a total cost likely exceeding millions of dollars, so that the addresses would be returned to “cage” workers.

“This is not a challenge list,” insisted the Republican spokesmistress. However, she modified that assertion by adding, ‘That’s not what it’s set up to be.’

Setting up such a challenge list would be a crime under federal law. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 outlaws mass challenges of voters where race is a factor in choosing the targeted group.

While the party insisted the lists were not created for the purpose to challenge Black voters, the GOP ultimately offered no other explanation for the mailings. However, Tucker Fletcher asserted Republicans could still employ the list to deny ballots to those they considered suspect voters. When asked if Republicans would use the list to block voters, Tucker Fletcher replied, ‘Where it’s stated in the law, yeah.’

It is not possible at this time to determine how many on the potential blacklist were ultimately challenged and lost their vote. Soldiers sending in their ballot from abroad would not know their vote was lost because of a challenge.

is behind this?

and the weird part was that I had recently moved and it came direct to my new address, no forwarding required.

Ugh hugh yeah right mother fuckers.

We both feel creeped out and not a little bit worried about the whole thing.

What in the hell are they up to?! :scared:

follow-up.

the only thing I thought about when my wife and myself received the letters is that we sure could use the $2000 bucks if the vets that filed the class action lawsuit against the VA wins.

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1972946,00.asp

vote and I will FIGHT FOR IT!