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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 11:13 PM
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Who Killed the Electric Car?????

WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR? chronicles the life and mysterious death of the GM EV1, examining its cultural and economic ripple effects and how they reverberated through the halls of government and big business.

The year is 1990. California is in a pollution crisis. Smog threatens public health. Desperate for a solution, the California Air Resources Board (CARB) targets the source of its problem: auto exhaust. Inspired by a recent announcement from General Motors about an electric vehicle prototype, the Zero Emissions Mandate (ZEV) is born. It required 2% of new vehicles sold in California to be emission-free by 1998, 10% by 2003. It is the most radical smog-fighting mandate since the catalytic converter.

With a jump on the competition thanks to its speed-record-breaking electric concept car, GM launches its EV1 electric vehicle in 1996. It was a revolutionary modern car, requiring no gas, no oil changes, no mufflers, and rare brake maintenance (a billion-dollar industry unto itself). A typical maintenance checkup for the EV1 consisted of replenishing the windshield washer fluid and a tire rotation.

But the fanfare surrounding the EV1’s launch disappeared and the cars followed. Was it lack of consumer demand as carmakers claimed, or were other persuasive forces at work?

Fast forward to 6 years later... The fleet is gone. EV charging stations dot the California landscape like tombstones, collecting dust and spider webs. How could this happen? Did anyone bother to examine the evidence? Yes, in fact, someone did. And it was murder.

The electric car threatened the status quo. The truth behind its demise resembles the climactic outcome of Agatha Christie’s Murder on the Orient Express: multiple suspects, each taking their turn with the knife. WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR? interviews and investigates automakers, legislators, engineers, consumers and car enthusiasts from Los Angeles to Detroit, to work through motives and alibis, and to piece the complex puzzle together.

WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR? is not just about the EV1. It’s about how this allegory for failure—reflected in today’s oil prices and air quality—can also be a shining symbol of society’s potential to better itself and the world around it. While there’s plenty of outrage for lost time, there’s also time for renewal as technology is reborn in WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR?


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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 11:17 PM
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1. I've heard some good things about this film.
Unfortunately, because of where I live, I'll probably have to wait until DVD to see it.
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oneold1-4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 11:29 PM
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2. They can't sell
perpetual energy! They can sell oil, gas, engine and emission parts and of course tires for those big humungous machines that still do eighty to one hundred mph.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 11:30 PM
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3. Actually from what I understand about the science...the electric
car was unable to be effecient enough energy wise and there were other issues with it.

Stuff that with development could have been fixed.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 02:00 AM
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4. Maybe, but physics is physics, and...
peoples is peoples.

So, even if they were to fix the lousy acceleration, limited cargo and passenger space, limited range and lack of "filling" stations anywhere you might want to go, who really wanted to buy them when gas was still so cheap?

Even more efficient would be better bus service, but who's clamoring to take a bus to work?

As much as we would like to talk about conspiracies, reminiscient of the Pogue carbureter legends, some things just don't sell.







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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 02:07 PM
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5. kicked for more input.
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CanSocDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 02:14 PM
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6. Lee Iacocco says he did...


"...GM was my partner on my neighborhood electric car. I spent five or six or seven million dollars of GM's money, and I decided the country wasn't ready for a full electric car."

http://biz.yahoo.com/hftn/060615/061306_iacocca_retirementguide_fortune.html?.v=2
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 02:44 PM
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7.  The manufacturers never intended to let those stay on the market.
note: crosspost from http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1449369

I could use one of those electric Ford Ranger pickups in the job I have today. Average daily milage is less than 30 miles with very little of it at highway speeds. My company buys regular Ford Ranger pickups to run. Our company gas bill is over $4000 a year. Think of that. My boss could save over $3000 per year in gas alone if electric trucks were available.

The truth is that electric cars were killed because they would work too well. Read the following quote from the transcript of the NOW program

PAINE: Well, there's -- there's almost no maintenance, because there's no internal combustion engine. So there's no carburetor. There's no tune-ups. There's no air filters to change. There's not even a transmission. So the electric car really challenges the whole fundamental business structure for the car companies. And unfortunately the -- the electric car's another problem. It doesn't use any oil. So, the electric car instantly goes after two bedrock industries in the country, and that makes it a very difficult sell.


So they screwed us because the cars would actually work better.

BTW- electric cars work long distances if you attatch a genset trailer.
http://www.acpropulsion.com/Products/Range_extending_tr...

These cars accelerate brake and corner better than 95% of vehicles manufactered and with the trailer get the mileage of a diesel Rabbit.
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