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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:22 PM
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Crooks and Liars: Ava Lowery on CNN [Video]
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 12:33 PM by longship
Crooks and Liars has posted the segment with Ava Lowery defending her activisim against the inane questions from the CNN talking head. I could not believe the lack of substance in this interview--not on Ava's part, but on that of the apparent monumental stupidity of Carol Lin, a pretty face with no brains at all.

Canofun - Post on Ava Lowry with video

Yes, that's DU's own Ava.

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:24 PM
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1. I consider it a honor to be the first to recommend this thread
:D
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:26 PM
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2. Thank you very much.
Can't wait to see it.
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:29 PM
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3. Yahoooo!
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 12:30 PM by Betsy Ross
Thanks for the link.

On edit: K&R
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:31 PM
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4. Yay for Ava!!
What a wonderful job Ava did! She showed such poise and grace ...even when confronted with stupid questions! I feel so much more hopeful knowing that there are young people with Ava's courage and conviction willing to stand up and speak the truth!

Way to go Ava! :yourock:
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:33 PM
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Good work Ava!
I saw the interview this morning and you gave better answers than I could. The host who was interviewing you was making me angry at some of her questions especially are they using you and my first thought was are the republicans using their puppet president, were they using terry schiavo? The question that really got me was " Do you think they would have chosen your videos if you weren't 15 years old. This was a stupid question to me because, Your videos are good and they should have been chosen whether you are 15 or 50. Where can I see more?

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:33 PM
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5. Ava was very impressive! Such a level headed, serene young woman.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:40 PM
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11. I think the word, "poised", is applicable.
Carol Lin was patronizing Ava. Ava kept her cool. I might not have done so.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:34 PM
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6. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Ava,
:yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:34 PM
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7. Ava was like a shining light on that interview
No way was that reporter going to put her light out either... She blew them away!!!!
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:37 PM
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8. god...
I couldn't even finish watching her video...*cries*


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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:37 PM
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9. Wow!
Ava did a great job. Calm cool and to the point just great.

I cannot believe the talking head called the jesus love me thing FLIP..uggg.

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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 02:24 PM
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44. I can't believe the reporter honestly couldn't understand
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 02:25 PM by kittenpants
the significance of the song paired with the images (AND titled WWJD)!!! I'm so proud to have Ava as a fellow DU'er. You're a true inspiration!

edit to add I'm glad you'll be voting in '08!:)
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:13 PM
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78. "What Were you trying to do Ava???"
Here is the Video: http://peacetakescourage.cf.huffingtonpost.com/animations/wwjd.html

That was such a stupid question:

"How did you find out about the War?"

As if to say:

"We the media try so hard to hide it from you with meaningless Bull Shit about what sports team is doing what, or what's the best fathers day present? How did you see through our camouflage? Why don't the death threats detour you?? Why don't you just give up like the rest of the sheep???"


Ava seems very Christ like. I'll bet she has a good Christian family. It is perfectly obvious what she is trying to do by linking the images with the song. She is trying to save the lives of children. Human children:cry:! Thats something that ever channel should be trying to do 24 hours a day. So Fuck you miss News lady for asking such lame questions and not doing your job.

Ava is truly an inspiration. We the People of the United States need more citizens like her.


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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:14 AM
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138. "How did you find out about the war?" is stupid
Most of the other questions were not.
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kcass1954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:07 PM
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152. Actually, I think it was a quite valid question.
"Well, we haven't been reporting on the war, so how the heck did you find out about it?"
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:19 PM
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156. good point
I guess I don't have a problem with Carol Lin at all, then.
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 06:33 AM
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145. The "How did you find out about the war" question...
Incredibly condescending question on the part of the interviewer. I mean, WTF? Does the interviewer think that just because Ava is 15, she should be more concerned with mall hopping and preening for boys?

I was offended on Ava's behalf at that moronic question.

Ava, keep up the great work.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:39 PM
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10. Go Ava, it is great you will do what so many of us can't or don't do
I see a bright future for you, you're already made us here very proud.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:41 PM
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12. Wow, what can I say but....
I wish I had a friend like Ava when I was 15.

Brilliant job!

Ava rocks--big time!

I'm so proud that she's part of our community.

:applause:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:45 PM
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13. Excellent. Really wonderful interview!
:applause: :applause: :applause:

I am tremendously grateful that the Iraqi children were seen by an audience that usually does not see them.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:46 PM
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14. wow, Ava did great!
atta girl. :applause:

i'm so glad they showed part of WWJD.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:46 PM
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15. Carol Lin is part of the pretty face Bushspinners Club.
That makes them EXTRA UGLY in my book.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:49 PM
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16. Ava was more intelligent than Carol Lin
that is for sure.
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 10:12 PM
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123. That is an understatement
My son has a tropical fish that is MUCH brighter than Lin.

:eyes:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 08:00 PM
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99. Carol Lin is a douche bag


Her favorite drink is Vinegar and Water
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MadJohnShaft Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:49 PM
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17. Carol Lin - I really am starting to hate her.
Last night I'm watching the Gore and Murtha things, and she kept breaking in with the hourly fear mongering update. Big smile on her face 'North Korea to Bomb US Targets' and a story on a dog that won the lottery are given the same reading.
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:51 PM
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18. I'm watching this one on my break
2:45 pm can't come soon enough for me.

:)

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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:51 PM
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19. Ava, you're doing what our media won't. Congratulations.
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 12:55 PM by Gregorian
As I watched your video, I realized that what this country needs is actual images of the war. That is what the media won't do. And you have done it for them.

You gave me the idea that we should all be making these videos of what this war is doing.

I salute your responsible behavior. And I support you in your own personal battle to stand strong. She wasn't very kind in her interview. And your age is actually putting them at a disadvantage. They can't slap you around like an adult.

You are a bright spot, Ava.
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:53 PM
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20. I would like to address one of the moronic questions Carol Lin posed
to Ava. The question was regarding the use of Christian "hymns" to make a point, and was she just being "flip"? I have heard that this is a "Christian" nation a million times from re-pugs across the board, yet they are shocked that the hatred and murder they are fostering around the world is related to it? First of all this is NOT a Christian nation. Most of it's people are, yes, but the founding fathers went to great lengths to keep this country secular. Second: This old testament, eye-for-an-eye type behavior that much of the Christian community embraces, is not Christian. That was the obvious point. How do people not get that? Ava's documentaries are wonderfully done, precisely for that reason. They force these many idiots to confront the consequences of their actions. They should be showing bodies, crying people, explosions, destroyed buildings and all the other horrors those that support any war have created, 24/7 on tv.

Thanks for letting me rant.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:56 PM
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22. you know sometimes
a question is designed to get out the respondants side of the story.

Some on the right are going to say and are no doubt saying that this was crass or flip. No problem with the question being asked, especially when she answered it so well.
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 02:42 PM
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45. My problem with it is that such questions imply that there is a
question about basic truths and wastes time on "Who's on first" scenarios. I understand your point, but I'm tired of watching the "news" constantly dance around reality and never addressing the real issues, let alone working towards real solutions.
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:38 PM
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85. Your totally right, instead of truth is this Bull "Your 15 years old" Quest
ions.


It's all crap. Thats the best they can do is fill time dancing around the real issues. They are so full of crap that they are backing up my plumbing.

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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:01 AM
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131. Carol Lin didn't say anything about a Christian Nation
You did not address the question.
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:02 PM
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154. No, what I was addressing was the inanity of Carol Lin's questions, and
her failure to address the substance of the issues that Ava and the rest of us are concerned about. I did go off on a bit of a tangental rant. I'm allowed. That's the beauty of these message boards is it not?
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:21 PM
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157. I didn't mean to rant either.
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 04:21 PM by Kire
but what is the substance of the issue, and how did Carol Lin fail to address it?

I don't think it was up to her to address anything. I think her job was to ask questions, not answer them.
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 07:38 PM
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159. So you can't think of any better questions that a "real" journalist might
have asked? You think "How did you find out about the war" is a sensible question? I think the interview was mostly insulting to Ava's intelligence.
Just my opinion though...
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:42 AM
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161. I thought it was stupid
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 01:01 AM by Kire
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:54 PM
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21. What am I missing?
Because I watched the video, and I didnt see any over the top questions from Lin, in fact, I saw her treat Ava like an adult and ask her adult questions. Some of them were mildly hard but Ava did a great job answering them and got her message out pretty well. And Lin ended it by saying "much older than her 15 years" which sounds fairly complementary to me.

I think we sometimes look too hard for slights. This seemed like a pretty balanced and fair interview in which Ava was shown respect and was given an opportunity to come off very well, which she did.

But I dunno, someone tell me where the problems were.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:59 PM
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25. The problem was the lack of *substance* in the questions.
Instead of asking about the policies and failures of ChimpCo's policy Carol Lin "flippantly" asked only about Ava's age, her use of hymns to promote her position, etc.

I found Lin's questions to be patronizing and insubstantive.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:12 PM
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30. So in short
you wanted Lin to simply attack Bush?

Why would she do that when the piece was clearly about Ava?

Ava's age IS an issue, her use of hymns IS an issue, I dont get it.

She didnt mock her age, quite the contrary. She allowed Ava to explain why she chose those hymns and the meanings behind them which IS an important part of Ava's message.

What was patronizing about those questions?

Insubstantive? I suppose if this were purely a discussion of policy then yes they were, but that isnt what this was, it was an interview about someone most of America knows zero about.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:32 PM
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38. Let's start with the "using her" question.
Like a fifteen year old person had no right to come to her own conclusions. I found that extremely patronizing.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:58 PM
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70. I find it a bit unrealistic
to say that all 15 year olds are as interested, engaged and focused on these issues as Ava is.

Because that would be the only reason why you'd find that question patronizing, if it were commonplace for all 15 year olds to be as Ava is.
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MiniMandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:29 AM
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126. I am 14,
and though I have not even come close to accomplishing as much as Ava has.... I think the same way she does. And I found the questions that Lin asked to be somewhat rude, especially in tone. As if Ava didn't even know what she was talking about.

As a young person, I experience that everyday and there is nothing more irritating that that.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:10 AM
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129. Well, I hope you understand that not all of us adults are like that.
Some of us try to respect people of all ages.
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MiniMandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 07:52 AM
Response to Reply #129
146. And a lot of adults do.
And that is something I'm glad for :)
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #38
122. I definitely think that the question "aren't you being used" should always
be considered a biased and insulting question.

Remember how many times they hit Cindy Sheehan with it.

Why is there always this assumption that, anytime a new person becomes an effective spokesperson for a progressive viewpoint, that that person is being USED? As if it is somehow inherently illegitimate for anyone to be an effective advocate of any progressive position.

By contrast, the media NEVER asks if anyone who is invoked in the name of the conservative position(like Jessica Lynch and her "rescue")is being used.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #38
153. And the right "uses" Ann Coulter too!
... even though they try do deny that they are doing so.

Which would I rather have, my fellow bloggers "using" an inspired 15 year old with wisdom beyond her years that gets more attention from the public, or an aging infantile loudmouth that spews hate towards certain people that those who "use" her don't like? I think the answer is obvious, unless you're a member of the KKK or some equally fascistic hate group.

Ava, we're proud of you for being such a decent spokesperson for your generation. If we can only get more to join with you and make it a youth movement that might rekindle the spirit we had as kids in the 60's, it would even be better. It is through numbers around you that you will become stronger and harder for these media leeches to try and marginalize you.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:54 PM
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41. One question she asked her pertaining to her age was
Something to the effect You are fifteen, how did you learn about the war in Iraq. That to me was very patronizing. It was as if Ava should be more worried about the latest Hillery Duff movie or she should be in a mall shopping.

I am very proud of Ava and that she is so politically aware. For those of us who were teens in the 60's who saw our President assassinated, saw the assassination of Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King, saw the deaths of our neighbors kids in Vietnam became politically aware very quickly at a very young age. Ava is basically seeing, feeling and communicating the questions of her government that she has.

Great job Ava.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #41
52. That really leaped out at me too
I thought that an appropriate response would have been: "Despite your best efforts, Ms. Lin, I managed to become quite well informed..."


But Ava handled it with a lot of poise. She has a stellar career ahead of her, and I'm damn glad (and proud) she's on our side. She's like the Anti-Rove.
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vikegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #41
57. If you think about it, it *was* a good question.
Most 15-year-olds *are* more worried about the latest Hillery Duff movie or shopping.

A matter of fact, most "adults" are the same way, sadly.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #41
68. ummm
I'm sorry and perhaps this is a sad commentary on our culture but it is pretty darn rare for a 15 year old TO be interested in politics or these big kinds of issues.

Heck there are too many 25 year olds and 40 year olds are also uninterested.

So I thought it a valid question. There is a REASON why you are proud, justifiably so, of Ava, and it is because her interest in this is rare.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 07:44 PM
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96. This is crazy. When I was 15 everybody was interested in the war.
The war was Vietnam, and many of us were acutely aware of 18 years olds being forced to go to it and die.

I note that my 7 year old and my 11 year old can fluently discuss national issues, including the Bush Presidency. Why? Because that's what we do at dinner. Why do we do that at dinner? Because we want our children to be good citizens if the constitution survives us.

I'm sorry, but Lin's questions were stupid. Ava made Lin look like an ass.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #96
97. Damn straight I knew about Vietnam when I was 15.
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 07:52 PM by tabasco
Dumbass question by the babbling idiot Carol Lin, reader of White House and Pentagon press releases.

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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #96
106. Lin compared her own youth.. "what was i doing 15 years ago"
Ms. Lin, who made the claim that 15 years ago she and her friends were dutifully ignorant about "A war", tried to compare her experience with that of Ms. Lowery.

Lets' see.. fifteen years ago, that'd make it the First Gulf War. Yep, Ms Lin was clueless then, clueless now.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #106
114. Yeah. That's absolutely amazing.
It's as if Lin announced, "I am a complete idiot," and Ava kindly condescended to speak with her anyway.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 08:20 AM
Response to Reply #96
148. I was raised the same way
When your brother is 19 and has flunked out of college (no more deferments for him) you are more focused on the war than on pop culture, even at age 12.

But even when we thought the war would be over before he was out of college, we still discussed it every night at dinner, and watched the news (and body counts) every night. Vietnam, Watergate - it was all discussed at mealtime. This seems more important to me than soccer practice or gymnastics or whatever kids do instead of eating dinner with their families.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:44 AM
Response to Reply #68
127. When Bush stole the White House the first time...
I was a senior in HS. Guess what? We were aware. We were cognizant. We were PISSED OFF! Maybe it's because I was in an amazing public school with amazing teachers, but there are more kids aware of the shit going on in the world than you might realize.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #41
107. I agree
Most newspapers are written at the fourth grade level. Why should it be surprising that someone in Jr High or High School is on top of these issues?

If you ask me...we tend to infantilize our children up until Junior year of High School and then expect them to thru a switch and act like young adults.

By 15 you should have the critical thinking skills and sense of civic duty to be on top of these issues.

Is it any wonder the right-wing has been at war with public education?
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #107
111. Right on.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #21
33. She should have asked more about the films
content...It was a missed opportunity to discuss why she felt she had to do the film...and what feelings it was meant to ellicit, etc...more on the art and artist and less on trivial side issues...
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. I got from the interview
what feelings it was meant to ellicit, why she felt she had to do the film, etc.

I guess I dont get how this interview makes Lin either stupid or a poster child for the RNC that one would get from this thread.

It seemed like a standard short interview. Now if this had been say ten minutes or so and this was all we got I would agree.

But it was about 4 minutes total minus the opening and closing bits by Lin.

That just is not a lot of time to go into detail.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #37
42. Nice work, Ava!
:yourock:
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #37
60. "Flip?"
The stupidest comment... and yes it was STUPID, was when Carol Lin suggested that Ava putting pictures of suffering Iraqi children to a "Christian hymn" might be seen as "flip". This made my skin crawl because I know that Carol considers herself quite the solid Christian, and she doesn't get the poignant irony of this juxtaposition? Flip?

Oh sweet merciful Jesus! Talk about the insipid vacuity of Ms. Lin's Christian convictions! The woman didn't even get it! :thumbdown:
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #60
71. I'm sure she "got it"
she was asking a question about an accusation some on the right no doubt are making.

That this was done for effect, i.e. "flip".

It gave Ava a pretty softball opportunity to tell why it wasnt and I thought she did a good job with it.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #71
77. Better check the video again... your statement is completely wrong here...
It is just as I stated in my previous post. It is Carol Lin that does not "get it". This is stictly her opinion. She makes absolutely no suggestion whatsoever that it may be "some on the right" who are makng any "accusation". In case you don't have time to listen to it again, here is her statement verbatem:

"Ava, taking a Christian hymn and putting it to pictures of suffering Iraqi children... what is it that you are hoping to accomplish, because the disparity between the two, it almost comes across as flip?"

Where in this does she implicate "some on the right"? This is Carol Lin's opinion and hers alone. And NO she obviously does NOT "get it" if she doesn't see what Ava is trying to accomplish with this. I'm sure it was Ava's hope to shame some Christians into seeing the horrible travesty of the war when juxtaposed with Jesus' compassion and his message of peace. No, Carol (and probably 99% of the Bushbot, Bible-thumpin' "Christians") don't "get it".
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #77
110. Exactly, Lin has internalized the bias
so much that it just seems obvious to her that the use of that music could be "flip," when in reality there's a wide range of interpretations to Christianity, surely not all of them in support of gung-ho war rhetoric. She probably did mean it is right wing spin, but in truth that spin has become CNN's spin -- hence, internalized to the point reporters don't even catch it or note a difference.

I'm also waiting for the day that a mainstream news reporter asks a kid at a support our troops rally or pro-GOP event whether they're being "used" by those who support the war -- guess I'll be waiting for a long time on that.

Great work, Ava ... so glad they used actual images and content from your video work because it really tells the story :) :)

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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:45 PM
Response to Reply #71
87. I agree with you qazplm.
Maybe Lin could have asked better questions, but what she did ask gave Ava a setting in which to shine. A good interview does not consist of softball set-up questions, that does nothing to help the subject. Ava was dignified and took everything in stride. I wonder what people would have wanted Lin to say short of the, "Why do you think George Bush is such a schmuck?" type question that would discredit the entire interview.

--IMM
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:57 PM
Response to Reply #87
90. But I wasn't commenting about Ava's responses...
I was talking about Carol Lin's opinion of Ava's work and how it sucked. Ava did just fine... no disagreement there.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:09 AM
Response to Reply #90
136. Neither was IMModerate
Carol Lin didn't have an opinion of Ava's work. She asked a few objective questions. What don't you get about that?
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #90
158. We all agree Ava did fine.
I thought Lin was adequate, and expressed no personal opinion. She asked some provocative questions which gave Ava a chance to look good. Lin wasn't brilliant, but in the end she expressed admiration for Ava.

What questions do you think she should have asked that would have made it better?

--IMM
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #60
112. Irony is dead (at CNN)
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 10:06 PM by Moochy
I think that one must have irony-detector-ectomy surgery when you work for CNN.

That Ms Lin could ask about the video, that killing childrens and a solo christian children's song about how "yes, jesus loves me." Automatically they are assuming that the video belittles christianity. But the real mistake that Ms Lowery has made is to "flippantly" equate the universal value of Jesus' message in that song, with the innocent Iraqi's life.

Jesus' message is all well and good until it interferes with our plans for oil empire.

Salvation, selectively remembered... Actually, as it turns out children, yes Jesus loves *you*, but not that other kid with no arms and no legs.. see he is actually satan's minions, so kill on without fear of damnation, my little killbot. You see they have the same thing, and they call it Jihad, we just call it "The West"

That's the part of the lessonplan which we as dutiful christian fascist soldiers are supposed to skip over.
That our country's citizen's lives are more important than the incidental innocent collateral damage.

I think that this is the quintessential poison of Nationalism; That we should all see those outside of our borders as "Others" and more readily support killing them.

All good citizens must militarize our reaction, we are all the troops. We(The US public and the troops) are the product of extreme programming. These children could have been walking time bombs!! shoot first!! dehumanize the human soldier. Dehumanize the society, miltiarize, and pit the factions against eachother.

I'll say that I expected Ms Lin to be much worse, and I agree with other posters that are partially defending her. She clearly was no "puppet for the RNC" but had to play the "objectivity=equal time" card, and had to come at Ms Lowery with all the questions. "How dare you form an opinion" "Netroots are just using you"

edited for clarity, i hope
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:08 AM
Response to Reply #112
135. She asked a question.
She gave Ava the chance to explain the irony. There are a lot of people watching who think it's flip. If Carol Lin just patted her on the back for her "poignant irony", that would be partisan and not something an objective journalist should be doing.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:05 AM
Response to Reply #60
134. I don't get the poignant irony of this juxtaposition.
Ava's video is poignantly ironic? Some may call that "flip". Why shouldn't they?
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #37
89. I think the story was worth 10 minuts. Play the whole clip! MSM Sucks
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Reckon Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #21
74. Because at the end, Lin tried to bait Ava
into saying "Vote Democrat". Lin:"you feel like you've got something at stake?", implying she's partisan. Ave didn't bite. Thus, Lin "much older than her 15 years"

WTG Ave!

We can all do more!
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:02 AM
Response to Reply #21
132. I'm with you.
Some on DU will never be satisfied.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:57 PM
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23. DEATH THREATS!
She has received death threats? What in hell is wrong with our country?

Ava did an AMAZING job with the talking head.

K&R!
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #23
46. See: 'The 32% - Warning: Adult Language and Poor Spelling Ahead'
It's one of her videos on the page cited on Crooks & Liars:
http://peacetakescourage.cf.huffingtonpost.com/

Unbelieveable! I guess it's OK to cuss up a storm & threaten a 15-yr-old with death if she's speaking out against our kind and soon-to-be totalitarian government. Here's the Kos link cited on C&L about the death threats:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/4/28/143854/703

Her video that gets me the most is the one called 'THE TIME IS NOW.' I promise - it will make you cry.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 12:57 PM
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24. Well Done Ava
:patriot:
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:01 PM
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26. Ava - YOU ARE MY HERO!!!
Excellent job...Your interview itself is very powerful.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:05 PM
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27. Ava did a good job,
but I was screaming at the chick doing the "interview" I thought to myself, who wrote those stupic questions?
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #27
31. ok I'll bite
what ten questions would you have asked?

Mind you, these would be ten questions that had to:

1. describe the situation or get AVa to do so (why is a 15 year old girl on tv right now being interviewed)
2. get out Ava's side of why she does this or chooses this
3. do it in under five minutes

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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #31
49. Well for one thing, if Ava wasn't 15, would you still consider it...
appropriate to ask if she was being used by the left? Do people ask Arianna Huffington if she's being used by the left? Would Skinner be asked if he's being used by the left?
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #49
53. I've seen Sheehan be accused of/asked the same thing
And she's a grown woman with a grown and dead child.

So why not ask a teenager? Especially when she's been accused of same?
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 03:59 PM
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56. How many times has Cindy Sheehan been asked that?
It's the question they ask when they can't pigeon-hole someone as a 'typical' leftie. Surely no one comes to such conclusions on their own, got to be brainwashed or something. Just shows a narrow mindset of what real 'Muricans are and how they should behave.

They have to minimize the fact that people are waking up to the Fraud-in-Chief or their nice little house of cards will crash down around them and they will be judged for their complicity.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:11 AM
Response to Reply #49
137. Perfectly Appropriate
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 03:13 AM by Kire
Huffington, yes. Skinner, yes.

Ava nailed the question, saying that they WERE using her. And that she was using them. You can't give a better answer to a better question.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:08 PM
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28. What an impressive interview, Ava!
You should be proud of yourself, I am. You go, girl! :)
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:08 PM
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29. It is impressive how well this young lady handles herself
Even on this board.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:19 PM
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34. I'm very impressed too
Very good answers, and a perfect apperance overall on that interview :-)

Does anyone have a link to the original NYT thread with all the votes? I forgot to bookmark it.
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:14 PM
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32. "Using" her? WTF?
As if she didn't make the decisions to work with them on her own? Damn patronizing lady... The bloggers weren't using Ava... They were WORKING TOGETHER, get it? :banghead:


Anyway, K&R. Great job, Ava.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:37 PM
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65. As if Ava has no mind of her own...
Tell us, Carol, is the corporate media "using you" to insinuate that Ava's work is "against the troops"?

Who's being "used" here?

Brainless twit.

Good work, AVA!
:woohoo:
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:30 PM
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35. K&R - Go Ava!!!
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:31 PM
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36. Excellent Job Future Pres. Lowery!
:toast:
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:33 PM
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39. Ava, you were terrific! Great work!
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degreesofgray Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:41 PM
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40. CNN has jumped an entire school of sharks
and I don't know how anyone can keep watching that crap. Kudos to Ava for being the one adult in that interview.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 02:13 PM
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43. Oh Ava! That was just amazing!!!
I am completely blown over right now!

The video was absolutely moving and poignant. You captured the tragic consequences
of this ill-conceived war, so masterfully. It's so important that people SEE that
innocent children are being killed and hurt, as a result of this war. Your pictures
and the music...stoke so many questions.

The video was just so touching.

And the clip from CNN---Wow. You totally rock, Ava. You are so poised, honest and articulate.
You are a natural on tv and you have a very quick mind. Carol threw some difficult questions
that seemed like trapped, "Do you feel like you are being used?" but you didn't bat an eyelash.
You just answered the questions honestly.

Frankly, I thought you looked like a very sincere, thoughtful, solid person--and Carol Lin looked like very artificial and superficial.

I tell ya--I have two young girls--one in K and the other a first grader. I only hope that I
can be a good enough mother--to help them grow up to be as conscientious and compassionate as
you are. You truly are remarkable. It is so refreshing to see a young person--so confident and self assured--and to put yourself out there!

Just amazing!! Truly amazing!

K&R!
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #43
50. Everything TwoSparkles just said. *Ava for President in 2028!*
Ava, if you're listening, you a truly gifted artist, and thank you for telling these stories through your works of art. You also handled yourself like such a pro and we're exceedingly proud of your courage & media creations.

My 15-year-old son, who dreams of being a movie producer someday, will be totally impressed when I show him these videos!

I don't know where you found them, but those images are truly heartbreaking.

"Keep up the good work" and "Don't let the turkeys (or fill in your own descriptive word) get you down!"
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 02:59 PM
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47. If only all Americans of all ages could have the wisdom and maturity that
Ava has, we would be in a whole lot better place than we are now....

Ava did so well in that interview and I hope her message continues to be heard...especially by lots and lots of 15+year olds who will be able to vote in Nov. '08!

Go Ava! :hug:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 02:59 PM
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48. Go for it, Ava!
:toast:
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 03:28 PM
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51. yes in 2008
Ava will be able to have her vote stolen too!
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 03:54 PM
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54. "How did you even know about the war"?
That pretty much says it all.
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grateful581 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 03:58 PM
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55. Great job Ava
:)
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:01 PM
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58. I'm so sorry I missed this yesterday,but thanks for posting
It's very powerful and a wonderful interview. Ava is definitely older than her 15 years.

Brava, Ava!
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:03 PM
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59. Woot to Ava! Leadin' the charge!
;)

:toast: <------Non-alcoholic beverage
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:08 PM
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61. Oh Ava, how you make me smile...
:pals:

You give me so much hope. You are an extraordinary individual. I am so proud of you.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:30 PM
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62. Fabulous. I'm speechless (almost).
What incredible poise Ava has, what commitment! Wow. Just WOW.

Bake
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:30 PM
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63. Ava rocks!
You were great, calm, poised, on point. Never let them up, gal. Keep telling the truth. :yourock:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:36 PM
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64. Two most telling lines: "How did you find out about the war?"
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 04:36 PM by impeachdubya
(yeah... how?)

and "You say you support the troops"

Ava was the definition of grace under pressure. She did great (Ava- you did great!!! :thumbsup:)

I'm proud as hell that this "kid" (hardly) is a member of the DU community. I know everyone else here is, too.

WAY TO GO, AVA!!! :woohoo:

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:53 PM
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66. Ava, you are one REMARKABLE young woman.
I've read about your exploits but never saw you before. I can think of *many* adults who could use your guidance to increase their poise and speaking skills ... to say nothing of their intelligence. I'm REALLY glad you're on our side!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:55 PM
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67. Carol Lin: "How did you find out about the war?"
What a bimbo this lightweight 'interviewer' is. Also, let's look at that question .....

"How did you find out about the war?" is what she asked. What was left unsaid was the next logical sentence: "Because *we* surely never told anything worth knowing."
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 04:57 PM
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69. Funny Ava exhibited immense wisdom. Lin on the other hand ....

"you're just fifteen Ava. How did you find out
about the war?"

Ava's measured and pointed response was a quiet
condemnation of Lin's own ignorance for asking
such a condescending question.
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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:02 PM
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72. Nice job Ava!
Poised, smart, and mature. Excellent answers!
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cinci_democrat Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:29 PM
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73. Fantastic job Ava!
You're an inspiration for us older folks to get off our butts and fight for what we know is right. Thank you.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:51 PM
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75. First Encounter with Carol Lin?
Her ability to ask the most inane questions, coupled with her pre-chewed negative talking points posing as objective questions is infuriating. In any case, I have the HuffPo link as my URL as a result of Crooks and Liars.

Thanks, Ava.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:21 PM
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79. Oh my, you are so right. She was absolutely obnoxious. Especially
that condescending tone - DUUUHHH, at 15, how did you learn this??? Like 15 year olds can not read yet. Sickening.

Ava, you were positively spectacular. Bravo !!!!
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:53 PM
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76. Ava did a wonderful job, and held her own...
She was smart, informed, and answered each question knowledgeably and confidently! Way to go Ava!! :hi:

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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:23 PM
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80. Saw it last night! Great job Ava!!
Wow, that Carol Lin is a dumb bitch! Nice job maintaining composure and getting our message out there, though, Ava!
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:25 PM
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81. Way to go, Ava! We are so very proud of you!
:yourock:


:kick:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:26 PM
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82. That was really terrific, K & R
Ava, you're a natural in front of the camera. Great job. :)
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:34 PM
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83. "where did this come from, how did you know about the war or study the war
All I can say is - wow, what a friggin chucklehead.

Well Carol Lin, we sure haven't learned much about the Iraq War from watching you, now have we....friggin jack***
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #83
113. Same question, raised a chuckle here as well
I was thinking of the perfect response as well, something like:

"despite watching CNN, I found myself in the dark, so I went online."

No greater indictment of CNN's part in this whole deprogramming exercise known as news.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:35 PM
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84. Good work.
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 06:48 PM by NastyDiaper
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:41 PM
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86. Such poise!
Ava you were amazing. Your videos are too, thank you very much. I also thought the interviewer was idiotic. How did you find out about the war? Did she actually mean to say that? Jeebus.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:47 PM
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Ava Lowery: Very classy! .... Carol Lin: Condescending *****
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:47 PM
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88. this cnn show
is becoming very blog/web/politically savvy. the sat. sun. 10p on cnn.

definitely one to watch.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 07:05 PM
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91. Guess who look like a clueless 15 yr old?
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 07:05 PM by Lost-in-FL
Not Ava of course.

Thank you Ava!:patriot:
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 07:07 PM
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92. Nice job - you have great composure on national TV
I wonder if you have found your calling in life, a job in reporting.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 07:14 PM
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93. Thanks, longship for linking this!
Ava, you did wonderfully! Carol Linn just didn't get it about the Jesus song and the wounded Iraqi kids, did she? Or was she being super-disingenous?

That's so Cool that you haven't gotten any hate mail from Soldiers, active or retired and that you got it out there on National tv.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 07:36 PM
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94. The CNN moron said she wasn't thinking about war at 15.
Probably she was playing with Barbie dolls.

Of course, if Lin had been thinking about war at 15, she probably would be qualified to be a journalist, rather than a pretty face reading a script on national TV, trying to act confused about an obvious point.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:43 PM
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119. LOL
I tried to make a similar point, but failed to capture the ineluctible irony in the anchorwoman's question.

Nice point about Lin trying to "act confused" it's clear she "got it" as others have pointed out. More of that "objectivism = equal-time" anti-pattern, play dumb, ask the editorial masquerading as interview questions, and you'll be seen as objective 50% of the time.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 07:38 PM
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95. I am bookmarking this.
And I will watch the link tommorrow from home. I am at work and there's no audio on the computers here.

Way to go Ava! :bounce: :hi:
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 07:52 PM
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98. Did y'all notice how .....
naturally polite this beautiful being is? When the commentator wrapped up the interview by saying "Ava Lowery, good to meet you"

Ava's parting words were:

"Thank you for having me"


She stayed true to herself till the end. That's what I picked up on.

Ava es muy cool!!

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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 08:03 PM
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100. I am so proud of her.
:loveya:

Thanks, Ava, for having conviction and guts, and for being so gracious on top of it.
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raggedcompany Donating Member (399 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 08:15 PM
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101. Holy shit, Ava is smart. On topic, cool headed. Great job!! n/t
n/t
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 08:21 PM
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102. AVA, I'm sure your parents are very proud of you. I am proud of you too...
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 08:22 PM
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103. Well done Ava...
You make us all proud...
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 08:29 PM
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104. Excellent job Ava. Great responses and superb poise.
I simply cannot beleive the inane questions that the bubblehead was asking. "How did you find out about the war?"....Ummm, cuz the right-wing media constantly promotes it?

My daughter just turned 15 and is also well-informed and passionate about this war as well. There may be hope for us all yet!

Very, VERY well done!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 08:37 PM
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105. Is Ava turning 16 soon, or was Carol Lin's math wrong?
If she is 15 now, in 2008 at this time, she will be 17... with only 4 1/2 months until election day 2008.

If she is 16 soon, an early happy birthday and I'm glad you'll be voting in 2008.

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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 08:56 PM
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108. "Do you feel like the bloggers are using you?"
I dunno, Ava, are we using you?

Considering we freaking worship you and your talents and are just blessed to have an artist of your caliber around....

and :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

I hope you don't feel used!

:yourock: :yourock: <-- get the picture yet?
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 08:58 PM
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109. I don't think Carol Lin asked terrible questions.
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 08:59 PM by Kire
I thought she was rather objective.

Go Ava!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:05 AM
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133. I agree. CNN isn't "Air America Radio."
She wanted to avoid being criticized for only asking softball questions.
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:21 PM
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115. I Just Watched It
Very good job.
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:24 PM
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116. wow! thanks everyone!
:grouphug:

btw, i didn't mind her questions at all. she was very nice and talked to me before the interview to make sure i was comfortable. :hi:
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:34 PM
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117. You did a marvelous job, and I personally think you came off much more
calm and mature than Carol Lin, who always seems to be looking for the "sensation" angle. Your message is one of reason and peace. Way to go!!
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:54 PM
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121. You were fantastic and stunning
I'm sure your family is so proud
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:48 AM
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128. Just to reiterate...
:yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock:

:hug:

:hi:
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:13 AM
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130. Good work, Ava!
Glad you are out there standing up for what you believe. Someday, you and people like you in your generation will shake the foundations of the rotten existing order, bring down the decaying shell of this tired old world and build a new and better one in its place.

Keep up the fight.
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:41 PM
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118. Thank You Ava
you are a warrior and I am proud of you. It is young people like you that will take this country down the right path.
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:52 PM
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120. amazing job!
:yourock: !
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 10:26 PM
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124. Ava rules.
:woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 10:42 PM
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125. I finally saw it. Good job, Ms. Ava!
:thumbsup: :-)
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:42 AM
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139. Whoo Hooo!!! More Gold Stars for Ava!


Thank you Ava! You are awsome!
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:58 AM
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140. Ava I'm sure you already know
that Carol Lin is shit I mean she is an amoral person
describing your video as flip because you used yes Jesus Loves Me as the background.

Ava Don't Stop You've hit a nerve with these soulless fucks.

Don't Stop!!!
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:49 AM
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141. "How did you learn about the war?" . . . asked as if the war were . . .
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 04:51 AM by OneBlueSky
some kind of state secret -- info available on a "need to know" basis . . .

when you think about it, that's pretty much how the corporate media has been treating the war . . . THEY certainly haven't broadcast photos of suffering and dying children . . .

Ava did a magnificent job . . . made the interviewer look like the dork she is, imo . . .

btw . . . that is a GREAT video! . . . congratulations, Ava . . . :hug:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:55 AM
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142. Ava Lowery
:yourock:
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:46 AM
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143. Wow
Is Ava media trained? Her sharp, logical and positive answers puts many adults to shame!

WTG girl!
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JunkYardAngel Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 06:16 AM
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144. Right, what would a young person know?
This attitude reminds me of what Bob Dylan wrote in Masters of War

"How much do I know to talk out of turn?
You might say that I'm young, you might say i'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never forgive what you do."

BTW, Ava
:yourock:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 07:54 AM
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147. Bravo Ava!!!! You were fantastic and Thank You for You Being You!!!! :)
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 08:44 AM
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149. Terrific Job Ava!
I just watched it!

You are wonderful! :hi: :hug:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 09:05 AM
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150. Terrific interview! K&R. You really held your own against some pretty
inane questions. Great job!:yourock:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 10:17 AM
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151. Yay, Ava!
You kicked ass.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:19 PM
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155. A kick for this amazing girl
Say, Ava - are you in any way related to Scott Lowery (Khephra), the DU'er that died so sudden? I hope you don't mind me asking, I just got curious to the similarity in names :-)
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 08:18 PM
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160. I second that kick....
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 02:09 PM
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162. kick
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