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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:17 PM
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Has Gore not done well on MSM Interviews? I keep seeing postings
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 09:19 PM by KoKo01
but not many replies that talk about what he was asked and said and how he handled himself.

Look...Gore just isn't always GREAT or CONSISTENT on these "one on one" interviews. I'm not apologizing for him because look at the Idiot/Doofus who is our twice annointed by Voting Irregularties P-Resident-in-Thief.

So... maybe Gore does "sigh" and maybe he's so thoughtful it takes him some time to thoughtfully reply to questions...but haven't we had "ENOUGH" of an idiot who has to be "spoonfed" seat assignments so he can answer his "hand picked" whore media? Haven't we had enough of this "WAR P-RESIDENT" who dirties up Air Force One by making it fly in under radar, with lights turned off and at "an angle" into IRAQ for SUPRISE VISTS?

When will we see that this IDIOT who RULES US...got there because he was PROPPED. Al Gore doesn't have "Props" but he has his HEART AND THE TRUTH.

And..as much as I loved Bill Clinton...his time is gone and we only get one "CHARISMATIC PRESIDENT" a Century. Bill's time has gone.

We need TOUGH FOLKS FOR TOUGH TIMES...:shrug:

Who is the "Tough Guy?" Biden,Obama, Bayh, or Gore? (I left out Hillary just to focus on GUYS)
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:18 PM
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1. He was pretty brilliant on Countdown tonight. And he'll be with Charlie
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:26 PM
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6. I agree. He was superb on Countdown.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:47 PM
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12. He's not on till midnight here
:(

I'll watch it tomorrow from the website.

Thanks for the head's up!

:)
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Mike Nelson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:19 PM
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2. I've seen a couple Gore appearances and...
...he seems fine. A lot more sane than George W. Bush.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:21 PM
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4. I'm not seeing "wild enthusiasm" for his performance given that he has
a great movie out there. That's why I asked. I think there's still an "image" problem with him that maybe we need to "overlook" or not. :shrug:
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 10:33 PM
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18. a lot more sane? listen, ALL the residents at the state funny farm are
more sane than the chimperor.
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unschooler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:20 PM
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3. Who cares about whether he is "stiff" or how he fast he breathes?
That sort of fashion critic journalism obscures his message.

If we're so stupid as to car about that stuff, we deserve another idiot in the WH.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:24 PM
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5. The problem is that if folks still see him as what you just said...it kind
of feeds into what the Repugs did to him before that they will think they can do again.

Qualifier: I'm a Gore supporter for 2008 ...so I'm really trying to figure out how DU'ers see him right now with the BUZZ for his new movie.

I would like to think he's overcome his negatives given the IDIOT we have there in the WH right now..

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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:49 PM
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14. I want him for 08 too
and will do everything in my power to make it so.
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unschooler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:38 AM
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19. I know. I just wish he'd get elected because he's principled and smart
and would do sooooo much to heal what is wrong in the world right now. Not because he's managed to overcome that terminal diagnosis of "stiffness."
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:31 PM
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7. Why didn't Gore call a spade a spade- that's the question!
Using terms to describe scientists paid by big corporate companies to debunk their
junk science as "Their are those who don't want to see the truth" or the 'polluters'/
something to that affect...

He never comes straight out and tells us that it is big business that is
responsible for paying these fringe scientists to lie.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:38 PM
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9. We here cry out for this....but politicians seem to speak in "nuance."
But, I for one, am glad we don't have Ross Perot as P-Resident. The "Big Mouths" often go down in flames once they have to deal with REAL and "nuanced" problems.

So, I give Al a break on this even though I wish so much for someone who will YELL THE TRUTH! But, if you watch Gore's speeches carried by C-Span and Move On.org. in the last years you will hear the PASSION and CALLING OUT of BUSH! He just won't do it in interviews...(and, I think it's because he's running in /08) and doesn't want the RWingers onto his game too soon where they will fire up FAUX NETWORK for EARLY ATTACK.

That's just what I think about his "nuance," though.
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unschooler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:42 AM
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20. I hope you are right on all points.
I do think the Fauxes are already going after him, though. They are scared, as well they should be.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:37 PM
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8. Gore's been great in the two interviews I've seen
Much looser and less stuff. He comes across as genuine, and his passion for the issue of global warming is obvious.

If he'd have let the public see this side of him in 2000, we'd be referring to President Gore now.

(But there might not be a DU either though.)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:44 PM
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10. I'm a Gore 2008 Hopeful...I'm just worried about lack of DU Buzz about
him...when folks watch his interviews.
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 10:03 PM
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17. It seems to me...
that the Republican's "Smear" and "Media-Assasination" of Gore was profoundly effective; and moreso that even Democrats realize. That is, it seems to me that many Democrats--even those who really are politically aware and those who understand the power of the media to manipulate people's thinking--such that many had their own opinions of Gore damaged and just think they don't really like him or that he was too flawed or whatever. Alas, whatever it is, it is. Gore wasn't really as skilled rhetorically back then to be able to respond to the treatment as effectively as we would wish... but don't kid yourself, not many people would have done better if they really were in his situation. He had no control over the media and it was severely biased against him, as covertly commanded by the Corporate owners of the media itself. What little access he did have, he might have used better if he'd been more aware of the malicious, unfair game being played against/on him--and if he'd been as sharp of tongue as someone like Jon Stewart, but such things aren't especially desirable as qualities in a President. Welcome to the multimedia age.

I'd just say I hope everyone who doubts him, gives him another chance--and that those of us who do like him and want him to run, make every effort to make such a loud noise of support in the country that he'll feel that he'd be letting down so many people, that he'd run for the sake of the citizens! He's our best hope, and don't forget--becoming the next President, for any Democrat--will be akin to having been sentenced to Hell or being made captain of the Titanic twenty minutes after hitting the iceberg! It's certainly no "prize", and aside from purposes of gratifying a needy ego, the only reason to consider such a job would be a real sense of duty--of patriotism--and desire to save our nation. For having a Democrat in the office will be the only way we can hope to save what we once thought of as America (and having majorities in BOTH houses of Congress is a must-have too--and one that the average American won't want anything to do with, having seen what Republicans did with such a majority). Alas.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:45 PM
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11. What is there to say?
He looks great, sounds great, and has a message. I watched him on LK, and the pauses were thoughtful ones. LK was trying to get some sound bites to hurt Gore, and Gore did not fall for it.

Most likely, it will be later in the game when he would be persuaded to run...if at all.
That is partly what is happening, I suppose. It is hard to get all worked up over someone when they say they aren't running.

Oh, but I will be watching him on Charlie Rose tonight. I bet it will be terrific!

I am comforted to know he will be working to resolve our environmental problems even if NOT elected to the highest office in the land.
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:49 PM
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13. Plainly, As a People, We Suffer From a Flawed Notion...
of what qualities are important in our leaders, especially for President. What makes people look and sound "wowee" on television just isn't what should be considered important (other than in just the most modest way).

Gore has everything it would take to be one of the Greatest Presidents (and perhaps even from among World Leaders) that this country has ever had!

Remember too... and this is important, even if I haven't seen much mention of it... but, remember, how you appear, how you come off, whether you do well or badly in "media appearances" and/or on "television"--can be substantially affected by the people who run the show! Even something as subtle as what questions they ask, how they ask them, when they ask them and who else is present can make a person look foolish, uncomfortable, awkward or unsure--or anything they want! Otherwise, your lighting, makeup, arrangement of chair, comfort of chair, temperature, air circulation etc., can easily be manipulated to leave a guest flustered without them even knowing why. How was the guest treated before the show? Do they feel they can trust you not to go outside of agreed topics/subjects? Might they viciously take a bite out of you with an unexpected question or insulting statement or what-not; as in, can you trust them, are you comfortable with them, and probably most subtly important--do they like/support you, because if they don't, the viewers will sense it in a negative way and the guest might have to keep their guard up/appear stiff and reluctant... When Gore was looking stiff, remember that the media types had all been evicerating him regularly--and there was little reason to trust them, even if they turned out to be polite. You get the point, but I would suggest it's easy to forget about such things unless you're going through them yourself.

Gore is much more relaxed, confident, comfortable and poised now, and is doing great. I doubt that he'll ever be as sharp tongued as Jon Stewart, but if we need a President that is... maybe we can get Stewart to run. As for me, Gore has it all and we simply could not do any better; and I believe we couldn't no matter who steps up. There just aren't many people who could possibly be better equipped for the office. I hope he runs, and after his treatment last time around, I don't blame him for an instant for not signalling this much in advance what he's going to do. I wouldn't blame him even if he chose not to run unless a truly massive number of Americans stood up and actually did something (nationwide gatherings or some such) to show their resolve and make a real promise of support for him in advance! If I were him, I wouldn't run unless the People literally carried me on their shoulders to the White House from the West Coast (well, I mean the symbolic equivalent).




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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:56 PM
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15. He's been giving some brilliant speeches in addition to the environment
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 09:58 PM by higher class
speeches.

Why do people lock in to corporate tv inventions - what they want to do on orders from Rove and Rovians. Ridicule. Mock. Smirk. Criticize his shirt color, neck, and call him wood names.

How many years into decades can people get away with that crap.

He is a serious person who chooses his words carefully, quips and jokes with ease, and sincerely laughs at himself with humility.

He is a scientist in his own way (his books are praised by scientists for the depth and technical knowledge). He's a political scientist. He appears to be a sincere husband, father, and grandfather. But people want him to be George Clooney or Abraham Lincoln or someone.

His interviews are as good as the host who interviews him. On principle he is better and he doesn't let them lie or distort.

But even DUers fall for the Corporate-RNC-Rove contract to decimate him.

It may never end and it's not deserved.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 10:00 PM
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16. He's not "stiff".. He's. . . . . NORMAL.
When he's having a conversation (like on Countdown tonight) he's carrying on a conversation. He's not "on" the way people who play to the cameras often are. He's real. Like a person who knows stuff and cares about things...

sheesh
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