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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:40 PM
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Just one U.S. valor medal given in 4 years
http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=103aea74d11b3e6d

U.S. military personnel have been bestowed only one Medal of Honor for valor in four years of fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The Army's second top honor, the Distinguished Service Cross, has been awarded twice to soldiers fighting in Iraq. Third-ranked is the Silver Star, of which 174 have been issued. The Navy has awarded three Navy Crosses and 30 Silver Stars since Sept. 11, 2001.

"The situations today are less likely to warrant the Medal of Honor than in past conflicts," said Nicholas Kehoe, president of the Congressional Medal of Honor Foundation. "That doesn't mean our troops aren't acting courageously or even heroically."
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What does it mean???
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:44 PM
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1. That's outrageous!
:grr: :grr: :grr:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:45 PM
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2. Perhaps they're anticipating a long war, and
don't want to give out medals too freely, unless it's to Tenet, Franks, and Bremer. :eyes:
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:51 PM
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3. Exactly that.
There simply is not as much combat as in past wars. And we use a lot more fire support than before so more often the situation is solved by fire support instead of individual heroics.

All of the Korean War had on 131.
All of the Vietnam War had 243.
All of WWII had 464.

It is a very difficult medal to get, and most are awarded posthumously.

That Mogadishu had two awards simply reflects that it was a very intense battle.




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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:56 PM
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7. There have been a lot of WWII and Korea ones
which were upgrades recently.
Other than that, I agree with you.

Mutual Fire support and air superiority reduce the situations MOH's are required.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:56 AM
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14. Clinton added quite a few
He especially paid attention to black and Nisei soldiers who had been recommended but not approved--including Sen. Dan Inouye (D-HI), who lost a leg in Italy during WWII. :patriot: These were long overdue.
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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:52 PM
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4. is there one for 'valorous interrogation' ?
they'd better print up a lot of those.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:53 PM
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5. One too many.
There's no honor in being your generation's version of the Nazi Blitzkreig.

It is reserved for those repelling the onslaught.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:55 PM
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6. no honor in serving fascism....
eom
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:01 AM
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8. Ahhhhh!!!.....You have got to be kidding!!!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:24 AM
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9. the medal of honor isn`t about politics
it`s about one person who was courageous above and beyond all others who placed himself in mortal danger to save the lives of this fellow soldiers. to think otherwise is a discredit to those who did what we have never been called to do.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:34 AM
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10. Pfffft ... Every military in the world has the equivalent ...
and we can't all be heroic good guys, can we?

I'm pretty sure one can find an authentic Nazi Iron Cross, on ebay. At one time, in Germany, there was supposedly no greater honor than to recieve the Cross.

Go figure.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 05:21 PM
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17. well, that is the ideal
anyone who has been in the military knows different.

lots of people do just that and get squat, for whatever reason, or lack of reason.

sometimes the system works, and then there are normal times.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:35 AM
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11. Added some more posters to my "Ignore" list
Two or three posters who are associating US troops to Nazis and fascists I'll have the pleasure not to read again.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:40 AM
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12. I'm all broken up about it, for sure.
Oh, right ... you can't read this.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:44 AM
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13. go ahead, keep your head firmly stuck somewhere that the sun...
Edited on Fri Dec-30-05 12:51 AM by mike_c
...doesn't shine. Oops-- you probably can't see this. If you could, I'd ask whether you disagree that U.S. foreign policy in Iraq is fascist. Apparently you think not. Whatever.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 01:08 AM
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15. This article should include numbers for previous times
There is no way to evaluate their conclusion because they don't say how often these awards were given in earlier wars.

But then why even give these high awards when 35 years later political rivals will simply dismiss them and say they didn't deserve them anyway.

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 03:01 AM
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16. NOT LBN! The Original USAToday article is over 2 day old! This is UPI BS!
Here's the original that doesn't have all the qualifying statements and Facts edited out:

Note: The qualifying info that UPI NewsTrack edited out or summed up in one inflamitory sentance is in Bold Italic.



<http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-12-27-valor_x.htm>

Posted 12/27/2005 10:27 PM Updated 12/28/2005 7:17 AM

Only one Medal of Honor given in Iraq, Afghan wars]


By Tom Vanden Brook, USA TODAY

American troops have been fighting and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan for more than four years, but just one soldier from those wars has received the Medal of Honor, the nation's highest military honor for bravery.

The lack of such medals — by comparison, two were awarded for fighting in Somalia — reflects today's unconventional warfare and the superior weaponry of U.S. forces, military experts say. It's not that today's troops lack valor, but they lack opportunities to display it in the extraordinary way that would merit the Medal of Honor. "The situations today are less likely to warrant the Medal of Honor than in past conflicts," says Nicholas Kehoe, president of the Congressional Medal of Honor Foundation. "That doesn't mean our troops aren't acting courageously or even heroically."

Kehoe, a retired Air Force lieutenant general and not a recipient of the medal, says the dominance of air power and the use of such tools as night-vision goggles give U.S. forces huge advantages. "We don't charge up hills with machine gun nests anymore," he says.

The insurgents' tactics in Iraq — remotely detonated explosives and suicide bombers — also mean U.S. troops often don't have the opportunity to respond heroically. "We don't have full frontal battles, like the Battle of the Bulge," says David Burrelli, a specialist in national defense for the Congressional Research Service.

Charles Moskos, a military sociologist at Northwestern University, points out that patrolling where insurgents plant bombs takes courage. However, it doesn't require the out-of-the-ordinary valor required for the Medal of Honor, he says. "It reflects the nature of this war," Moskos says. "Not the lack of heroes."

The Medal of Honor, at the "tip of the pyramid" of honors available to U.S. forces, is meant to be awarded infrequently, Burrelli says. Troops receive the medal only for risking their lives in acts so courageous that failing to perform them would not trigger any criticism, he says. It is awarded by the president in the name of Congress and is often referred to as the Congressional Medal of Honor.


The Army's second top honor, the Distinguished Service Cross, has been awarded twice to soldiers fighting in Iraq. Next is the Silver Star; 174 have been...

(more at link below)
<http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-12-27-valor_x.htm>



This is NOT News, this is BS, Edited to distort the original story, RW Propaganda from UPI NewsTrack <http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20051228-101818-4166r>, which is probably the #1 source for Bogus, repackaged BS "news."

Please stop posting this type of crap.

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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 05:36 PM
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18. Your subject line is a little dishonest
You are referring to the Medal of Honor not just any medal for valor. There have been hundreds of medals issued for valor but only one medal of honor which is the highest honor given.
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