Kerry's response to "Cut and Run"

is "Lie and Die". He is on Imus right now and he says that the republicans are great at getting their three little word talking point. He said this is what they are going to use to label Democrats for the upcoming election. And this is what our response should be.

I like that. I says a lot in very few words. And it's completely true!

He made a really good case for why we need to change to succeed in the real fight against Al Qaeda.

Language: A Key Mechanism of Control

Newt Gingrich's 1996 GOPAC memo

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4443.htm

needs to be read and re-read by DUers. This is how the GOP plays hardball, folks. Kerry just hit the ball outta the park !

n/t

Fighting fire with fire. I like it. Say's it all in 3 words.

"Lie and Die" Exactly what *&Co are all about. They might want to add "steal and cheat."

...winner of the '04 General presidential election. :kick:

I like it better even than Murtha's "stay and pay", because it succinctly says what has happened. Bush lied, people died.

:toast:

shortly after the '06 elections. Until then, his focus is getting other Dems elected.
I say he's already decided!

continue dying..."

He sounds very good this morning.

He should speak this bluntly all the time.

They should be bold and blunt. They get on the campaign trail and start to manipulated by their stage hands instead of being themselves.

He is on fire this morning.

Anyone who thinks he's only doing this political points can kiss my butt.

He's f-ing serious.

one.

He's kicking ASS. He's speaking in plain language. He is speaking the fucking truth.

Right now: "...businessmen hire illegal aliens...huge numbers...everyone knows it..."

.....wide.

Maybe, just maybe, Kerry learned his lesson not to be so damned wishy washy on everything.:applause: It seems he is much more resolute these days.:applause:

Kerry says he's raising money.

(Ford is a conservative black pol in TN. Go figure. He may be elected. Anything is better than Frist.)

I'm surprised to hear you describe Ford as conservative. Sure, he's to the right of Barney Frank, but nearly all congresscritters are!

What are his conservative positions? I've heard him speak plenty of times and would never have defined him that way.
The Professor

Conservative in the sense of his center to center left politics, demeanor and public speaking manner i.e. more of a LA Democrat and not really a MASS Democrat. He is well spoken, handsome and very smooth. I think he has a chance to win.

He is connecting to even some of the eastern TN (conservative Dem) people.

Note: I grew up in east TN, daughter of a John Birch Society Repub. I was in Chatt., TN last weekend and I saw many Ford campaign signs.

That's pretty much what i thought of him too! And, since i'm not from TN, i was wondering if i had completely misread him.

Thanks
The Professor

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Ford was pretty supportive of Kerry (from what I remember when he was on Imus) in 2004.

whoever wins the primary of the 3 (R)s - Bob Corker, Van Hilleary or Ed Bryant.

According to a phone survey done by Zogby:

Corker - 46% to Ford - 42%
Hilleary - 43% to Ford - 41%
Bryant and Ford tied with 42% each.

I haven't stumbled across anything current that only polls the 3 (r)s, but I'll keep looking around, 'cause I know what I found doesn't really answer your question.

Remember when mostly decent Republicans like Howard Baker represented the state? :cry:

:hi: I see you're from Ooltewah. I grew up in Chattanooga and on Signal Mountain. I was just there a few weeks ago. I miss my mountain home.

He had on his "Elector" t-shirt and we were pumping gas and I did explain that if I were an elector and if the shoe were on the other foot I would've probably committed suicide later, but if it seemed that the people in FL actually voted for Bush**, in good faith and conscience I couldn't cast that vote in TN for the person who didn't win the popular vote, but I would've had to trust what I perceived to be the will of the people. He grunted at me. (In other words had the shoe been on the other foot and it was obvious that something had gone horribly wrong with the election I would have voted for Bush** (puke, puke, gag, gag, cough, sputter).

Then I mentioned that my husband had told me that having a conscience like that is exactly why I would never be allowed to be an elector. He was red faced and not happy to have encountered me that morning to say the least!

That's when I realized that partisanship and winning means more to the republicans than seeking anything that resembles the truth or doing what is correct.

And my President. K&R!

:patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

Seriously, he was unbelievable this morning

THIS should be the slogan for the fall
"I’m tired of their mistakes . . .I’m tired of their lies"

on edit "Lie and die" is good too :)

Nice one, Kerry.

Each year, the Bush administration's lies will cost 2,500 Americans their lives, limbs and long-term health.

the Republicans up in the 06 Congressional campaigns.

cutting and running, they are nothing but slogans, that mean nothing.

Kerry is just pissed like the rest of us.

JK was truly on (that man has amazing energy, even early in the morning!) and you know that if Rove came up with a phrase like that "Lie and die!" it would be being spouted by every media personality, on every news show, by every Republican calling into every talk show within five minutes. And it would go on relentlessly until it was as familiarly stuck in every American mind (Republican, Democrat and Independent) as "Where's the beef?"

The Right Wing Noise Machine is equal parts the MSM's slavish repetition of anything the GOP comes up with and the organization of partisan loyalists who will repeat it on talk shows, in LTTE's, on blogs.

We may not have the MSM (though kudos to Kerry for continuing to make appearances like this to spread his message to the people even if the MSM won't do it!) but we have the same power those loyalists have. Let's have some loyalist action on our side! If the MSM won't make "Lie and die" part of the popular consciousness, why don't we do it?

Every time you talk about the war, use that phrase (and attribute it to Kerry!) And, while you're at it, talk about what he's proposing to bring the troops home and stop the dangerous acceleration of terrorism and violence that our presence in Iraq is fueling.

This administration lied us into a war and they're lying about what's happening to our troops. LIE AND DIE! The Bush Administration, from putting the troops in harm's way unnecessarily by not having a strategy in place for getting into or out of Iraq (LIE AND DIE!) to not supporting them with adequate equipment or body armor (LIE AND DIE!) to not caring enough to fund programs for returning veterans and their families (LIE AND DIE!) has proven again and again that they would rather LIE while our troops and innocent Iraqis DIE to hold onto their power than see the democracy and peace they claim to want in the region.

Call them on it! Expose their lies and hypocrisy!

Here's the challenge: get that phrase "LIE AND DIE" out there in five different places today. Write it in a blog comment, call a talk show and use it, write a LTTE, send an e-mail about it to family and friends, whatever you can think of to get it into the general consciousness!

If you have ideas for how we can do this, post them here!

Your suggestion will get lost way down here.

Please start your own thread on your ideas here! :)

Thanks for calling a spade a spade in crisp, compact terms.

I wonder if he is giving a speech today in the Senate supporting his and Feingold's amendment?

Wants to "address the damage that will do to our effort"

Repeat after me, "Lie and Die", "Lie and Die", "Lie and Die"

Good for you John Kerry!

:D

here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9877442/

I don't suppose anyone got an audio recording??

it's a little finicky

"I'm tired of their mistakes. I'm tired of their lies."

The Bush administration's "the point of no return." And the troops, "they don't know what the mission is. They don't feel as if they've been supported. And they come back and -- I mean supported in terms of the strategy.... $2 billion a week."

Hammer 'em !

"I'm tired of their mistakes. I'm tired of their lies."

To show them how much we care, I think we should give them all medals. Let's start with the Veep.

http://www.pollyticks.com

(http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9877442/)

to the Carpetbagger, and he says he'll have a post up about 12:30.

Here's what he wrote:

I wish I could tell you how much I love this. I was just thinking about whether the left could come up with a quip-like alternative to "cut and run." Apparently, John Kerry already has. I'm thrilled.

Many, many thanks. I'll have a post on this around 12:30.

They Lie We Die

I heard the conversation on Imus' show this morning... and although Kerry was livid and articulate, Don Imus seemed bored with the whole conversation... did not offer any response or affirmation. Sometimes I enjoy Imus and his guests, but sometimes he really pisses me off (especially when he has his wife on the show... not a very bright woman...)...

More folks should have heard Kerry's conversation...

was absolutely OWNING the conversation. Imus tried to get some of his silliness in - but Kerry diffused it very quickly. (Imus was desperate enough to playfully insist about 4 times that Kerry thought he was President. Kerry refused to bash either Biden or Dodd.

I really don't think Imus is interested in policy - on anything. He far more enjoys the political in-fighting. Even on his own issues, Imus is only interested in his own preset comments. He speaks about his wife's work with Hackensack medical Center all the time but ignored Kerry when he mentioned it.

I think he resents that Kerry had by far the best of the conversation - where he usually has the upper hand with others.

ALWAYS keep it appended to the word "Republican".....as in "Lie & Die Republicans".

"Republicans lied, people died" "Republicans stay, we pay" This is our "War on Error"

Take this message to non-political forums and message boards. My favorite place to post is at online newspaper forums.

:hi: :hi: :hi:

Go Kerry!! :kick: :yourock:

Sounds OK, but I still like "Stay the Quagmire" better:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2684423#2685824

if you like what kerry is saying:

check out more info at www.johnkerry.com

They Cut Government Programs And Run Away With The Taxpayers' Money Plus The National Debt."

Have They Done Anything Else? :shrug:


(Another one we should 'hear' over 'n over again.)

A shame we need to sink to their realm of soundbites, but the media gives us no other choice these days.

to start shouldering before they are made to eat crow on the commons

Nothing to win!

"Lie and Die" or "Cut and Run"

No wonder so many voters are turned off by both political parties.