There will be no deadline for pulling out

burythehatchet

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Tue Jun-20-06 08:57 AM
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There will be no deadline for pulling out

of Iraq becuase there will be no pulling out of Iraq.

There will be a permanent US presence in Iraq.

Since elections in the US are pretend exercises in democracy, any candidate who intends to end the occupation will be marginalized. Hillary might be allowed to be president to placate the democrats but she wouldn't be allowed to president if she intended to change course.

The end result will the end of the American expriment in representative democracy and the rule of law. What began as wonderful idea was corporatized into oblivion.

Just as Afghanistan broke the back of the USSR, so will Iraq lead to the demise of the US. The treasure that has been spent there until now is a drop in the bucket. The US will be completely bankrupted because of this occupation.

Read more in the book Imperial Hubris. Its not a pretty picture.

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Hugin

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Tue Jun-20-06 08:59 AM
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1. Well, I've heard the British, Australians, and Japanese are "cut and run".

Down there in their little slice of heaven...

Will move to a "support role".

I'll be glad when the Dems reframe these actions as a "Disengagement".

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Ezlivin

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Tue Jun-20-06 09:01 AM
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2. Can't pull out? I thought these guys believed in the rhythm method!

They put the H in Jesus H. Christ.

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OrangeCountyDemocrat

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Tue Jun-20-06 09:25 AM
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3. So....Which Countries Are Still Representative Democracies?

Where is it safe for former Americans to go where they have the same rights they had a few years ago? Was America the best of the best, and now more in line with other restricted Democracies, or are there still options out there for "freedom" lovers?

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burythehatchet

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Tue Jun-20-06 09:58 AM
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5. I can't say for sure

Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 09:58 AM by burythehatchet

but when my youngest son is little older I dream of exiting stage left. Brazil looks mighty nice to me. A little condo on the beach, watching yound Brazilian soccer players prepare for the world cup. :)

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OrangeCountyDemocrat

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Tue Jun-20-06 10:14 AM
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6. Brazil?

Are things going that well down there? That a safe country?

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burythehatchet

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Tue Jun-20-06 10:27 AM
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8. The urban centers are very dangerous

the outlying areas appear to be safe and calm. I believe Brazil has also announced that they will be free of oil dependence in 15 years
http://www.energybulletin.net/5021.html

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Philosoraptor

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Tue Jun-20-06 09:31 AM
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4. Democrats are submitting ideas for a pullout, but it won't happen.

Not with the cockroaches in the white house.

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OrangeCountyDemocrat

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Tue Jun-20-06 10:14 AM
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7. It Will NEVER EVER EVER Happen While They're In Power! nt

Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 10:14 AM by OrangeCountyDemocrat

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bdamomma

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Tue Jun-20-06 10:32 AM
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10. so we have to get them out of power

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lectrobyte

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Tue Jun-20-06 10:29 AM
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9. We didn't build 14 bases and our largest embassy anywhere with

"leaving" in mind. At least not until the oil runs out...

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