PBS's "The Dark Side" - "If you watch only one documentary this decade"

Frontline's The Dark Side airs tonight in many areas.

The Oregonian's TV critic Ted Mahar (sorry, no link to review yet) had this to say:

If you watch only one documentary this decade, make it "The Dark Side." Also, record it. ...

You will want to rewind from time to time to be sure that you really heard what you heard. ...

Tenet, a holdover from the Clinton regime, quickly reported that the World Trace Center and Pentagon attacks were the work of Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaida operating out of Afghanistan.

But Cheney needed to sell the attack as somehow effected by Saddam Hussein.

"Dark Side" details how the weapons of mass destruction fiction was concocted and sold. Some commentators have accused Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush of cherry-picking bits of intelligence while ignoring other bits that did not fit the scenario. Those who tell the tale here indicate that no cherry-picking was involved. The details were all invented.

When Mahar's full review is posted, it will be at http://www.oregonlive.com .

Yes! We all need to watch this.

Bye the way - Repugs. are trying to cut PBS funds again. Don't remember where I saw it but I did.

Cheney???

Thanks for the heads-up!

A shame that they will be mainly preaching to the choir, for the most part. Most of the viewers on PBS are liberal-minded and have known of Cheney's "Dark Side" for quite a while.

K&R!

showing that if CIA agents didn't provide Bush with the "information he wanted", they had to be prepared to resign.

I look forward to seeing the Dark Side too.

I plan on watching this...

Sounds like a winner.

:thumbsup:

Thanks for the reminder. I just checked and it's on Ch. 13 at 9 for all you New Jerseyans and New Yorkers who are reading this.




Cher

about taping it so I can re-wind and re-play !

and call it RW. With shows like Frontline and the Gay/Lesbian theme they have this month how can anyone consider it RW????

Cokie Roberts.

I've heard her commentary on NPR and never got that impression !

Cokie Hokum
http://mediamatters.org/items/200410120010

and this:

"...should we pretend Cokie Roberts is a firebrand of the left? In the real world, she might sue for slander if you called her "left-wing." The main "cause" she champions in Washington is the right of pundits to rake in big lecture fees from corporate interests.
But in the make-believe world of TV, Roberts is the kind of pro-corporate centrist who passes as a liberal, the only alternative offered to the fire-breathers of the right.
Network news executives and corporate sponsors seem to prefer TV debates that exclude half the political spectrum -- the half led by advocates for middle-class consumers, labor, the environment, minorities and others critical of the status quo."

Cohen & Solomon: TV Talk is All Right Wing

By Norman Solomon, Posted April 26, 2000.

vote for repukes because she's no doubt in the high income bracket and of course, making the rich richer is the Repuklican creed.

Jiminy crickets - one person destroys all their good work?

This is the kind of BS I hear from Freepers.

time watching PBS. I have always considered Frontline, especially, to be the most factual series of documentaries on TV. They are well researched and don't play on sensationalism to try to sway their audience to one point of view or another, IMO.

haven't you noticed all of the christian related shows?

its a show that slants to the right??

Their christian related shows are not of the fundie variety; a lot of moderate or liberal christians (like myself) find them these programs excellent.

Its not like Jerry Falwell and James Dobson are ever on PBS.

how many pbs shows have you seen on other religions? really now... ever since * stole the wh, there have been a plethora of christian oriented pbs shows.

hindu, buddhism, and hare krishna enough for ya, but consider american demographics for a bit.... they do have to get viewers.

And before anyone rips the good ol' USA PBS, don't ya think that religious coverage for TV in India probably is 99% hindu, in Pakistan its 99% islam, in China its....well they probably don't allow any religious TV, even buddhism....

is that i don't remember pbs ever having this much religious oriented programming. i used to really love pbs too, but now it just seems to be a ghost of what it was previously....jmho.

K&R

Thanks for the heads up. I love Frontline.

CIA's counter intelligence program". It would hinder The real hunt for Osama and his Al Queda network.

But George went along with it anyway.

He wanted oil and strategic dominance.

not long ago they had some right wingnuts that ran Bill Moyers out?

http://democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/16/1329245

Thanks

are draped in black

Frontline is on my list of series that I always record. It's one of the very best. Isn't it great when you can believe every word of a program? No need to wear BS ear protectors. ;)

Frontline has slowed down it seems to me. Glad they are doing this story angle.

:)

:evilgrin:

Goodnight.

Ready with :popcorn: & :puke: bags, just in case.

On Direct TV anyway. :( Let us know how it is.

Apparently they're going to air it online Thursday at 5PM - I'll try to remember and tune that in while at the office.

It was excellent. Nothing new to those of us who don't rely on MSM for our info - except the part about the alleged plot within the CIA to keep DimSon from being re-elected. I don't remember hearing about that before

I'm not optimistic...

was very interesting.

I had never heard that before.

This is really interesting - we know a lot of it but so far so good.

the Bright Side.

Un-fucking-believable.

candlestick. That's what Chimpie was told, point blank.

Surprising he didn't go looking for Col. Mustard...

None of this is a surprise to me, but to see it so well documented and to hear these people talk about it, just scares the shit out of me.

A fugging coup based on lies from day one.

I hope Tim Russert feels good about his chats with Cheney that have ultimately killed 2500 of our soldiers and untold thousands of innocent Iraqis.

frightening.

Isn't that nice. How many of our 2500 dead soldiers will his "regret" bring back?

None.

on this documentary.
Sp.

Force Oil Maps...

http://www.judicialwatch.org/iraqi-oil-maps.shtml

ether.

this is all mind-blowing - Condi, Colin, they're all guilty of participating in this mess. Where is Daddy Bush in all of this.

to write an editorial in the New York Times pointing out why going into Iraq and taking out Hussein would be a very bad idea. Scowcroft hit all the main points. S

Bush Jr. gave an interview in which he was asked if he consulted his father before he went into Iraq. Jr. said that he consulted another father who was better equipped to offer advice and support; i.e., God.

This is a reminder. Despite the elder Bush's reputation as a complete slime, he listened to those who told him to chase the Iraqis out of Kuwait but not to topple Hussein back in the first Gulf War. Those advocating caution were Powell, Scowcroft and most other Middle East heads of state, including King Hussein of Jordan and whoever was running Saudi Arabia at that time. All agreed that toppling Hussein would unleash severe sectarian and ethnic violence which could spread beyond Iraq's borders. Sounds familiar, huh?

I think that one thing Cheney & Rummy used to get Junior hopped up to go into Iraq was to remind him of how his father chickened out and didn't get the job done, then tell him that he could outdo his father by toppling Saddam. Oedipus where art thou?

but let's hope not. What an amazing expose.

:hi:

:eyes:

on his way to the Hague with the rest of them.

Cheney, Bush, Tenet, Rice, Pillar.

That's just for starters.

Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

2500 dead based on lies.

This fugger is saying how much it affected him -2500 US deaths and 100,000plus Iraqi deaths and it affected that gutless wimp.

This documentary is providing a 90-min. summary of everything the American public deserves to be told from this administration re: "fixing facts around the policy".

This has shown that Tenet should have cut bait in Dec. 2001 after having routed the Taliban from power. Tenet then fell victim to his close relationship to the president and fell under the PNAC spell and sold the NIE as a "slam dunk".

This has shown from the CIA perspective how Cheney pressured the "right" intelligence to come out.

It has shown Cheney in one of his direct lies ("there is no doubt" Saddam has amassed weapons of mass destruction).

It has shown the aluminum story for what it was, a complete exaggeration.

It has shown the Niger/Yellowcake story for what it was, a complete fabrication.

It has revealed that Powell was kept from knowing that "Curveball" was the single source and that "Scooter" Libby directed Powell what to say in his speech to the UN.


This should be required viewing in every school and every office in every state of the union!


This *should* be what the Senate is providing to us in the form of Phase II of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report of the run-up to the Iraq war but that the traitor Sen. Roberts keeps scuttling.

This administration MUST stand before the Hague for its crimes against humanity.

Great summary.

and frightening. Everyone should see this on a wide screen in a cinema.
Tenet was well paid for his role as a fugging yes man. He Traded integrity for access - lovely phrase. THey should all be arrested for treason.

the systematic destruction of the CIA and handing over of its power to Cheney and Rumsfeld. This is fugging frightening.

Superb program - I'm glad I recorded this. I will share this with friends and family.
Edit -sp.

And a pretty good indicator that Cheney never intended to find any candidate other than himself for VP in 2000.

Links to extended interviews
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/interviews/

Observations and Analysis
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/themes/

Cheney's network in the administration
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/etc/network.html

CIA's realignment
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/etc/cia.html

Rumsfeld's and Cheney's paths to power
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/pentagon/paths/

They are guilty of treason and crimes against humanity!

Bremer, Franks and Tenet.

They are guilty of treason, not deserving of any honor.

Forgot about that.

Did you see the fugging smile on Tenet's face after what he facilitated. Treason!!!

Of course he got most things right in this catastrophe.

David Kay FINALLY got it right after the war started and he searched for WMD......he was right along with the pack pre-Iraq war....actually, I thought he was very hypocritical.

When are these criminals going to be held accountable?

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?031027fa_fact

This story has been out there a loooong time.

but Frontline still blew my brains.

Select Intelligence - Seymour Hersh
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030512fa_fact

The New Pentagon Papers - Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/03/10/osp_moveon/

Hijacking Catastrophe - Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6895.htm
(video) - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1/hijacking_catastrophe.rm

more info on the PBS website

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/

I have two.

n/t

i went to ucla, some things never fade away :toast:

http://www.shoppbs.org/sm-pbs-frontline-the-dark-side-dvd--pi-2291305.html

They have been slow shippers to me in the past, but maybe they'll be on the stick with this one.

:thumbsup:

Merci beaucoup.

i am sure; as to 'just how it was' these thieving, lying, delusional, paranoids operated in too many cases even in the semi-wide open without so much as a check...or a balance

has been disgusting me on a routine basis of late

someone abandoned him as a kitten, we found him in a woodpile out by sac metro, he's got issues but he's coming round, thank you so for asking swag dearest

He looks like my first cat Tom, who came meowing at the back door when I was 5.

Died a few years later in the toolshed.

Sweet cat.

Give my greetings to Tim.

thank you for your remembrance, swag ~

I hope this gets replayed

This program laid it all out for all to see - a must watch.

Boy do I wish Tenet would have a moment of clarity and decide to spill his guts. Powell too. Those two guys, if they'd had the fortitude, might have been able to stop the whole thing. Instead, they gave in knowing full well what was happening.

Cheney and Rummie are evil bastards.

Oh - and WHY didn't our elected representatives read the damn NIE?????? :mad:

I only caught the last few minutes. It re-airs on my PBS station in the wee hours Friday morning, but in case I forget to tape it, it's good to know I can watch it online.

it's only on in the wee hours of the morning here, too.

(National Intelligence Estimate)on Iraq, but she chose to zip her lip. She was either cluelessly imcompetant or complicit.

Do not forget the mushroom cloud. They are all guilty of treason.

in Afghanistan and oil in Iraq and nuclear equipment and technology plus weapons everywhere there is money and a method for laundering it.

Drugs. Earth resources. Weapons. Contracts. Raw war materials, supplies, and services. Combined with oil barons breathing down necks to control the people, limit the wealth and population. and demanding that the Constitutions be revised.

This is what it's all about and we're here reeling from several new truths about all kinds of losses - each day - all the while fighing each other increases.

What it should be about is peace, treating the planet in the way it deserves, allowing people to rise to their highest creative and devotional ability and to surpass the bare basics of survival. The opposite of criminality.

and claim:

'You've got to admire the tenacity of the America-haters. We're headed toward a substantial victory in Iraq, bringing freedom to millions of people and hope to billions -- and the liberals just keep trying to throw sand in the gears. They never give up."

BWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1652784/posts

Koolaid drinkers will never face the truth. Truth is poison to them.

twice!

Called my dad on the other side of the country and told him to watch it. He was quite the supporter in 2003 before the war started and when I was marching in Washington.

I am so glad I marched in Washington along with over 500,000 people before the war started. It may not have accomplished it's goal in stopping the march to war but it will help me explain my role in the war when my son asks me what happened and why was America so stupid.

Very good.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/view/


Official site: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/

I will hunt up some appropriate student groups at the local colleges and see if they want a copy.

when is the next time the put that on?

I need to get some freinds to watch it.

So full of inside information that I was previously unaware of. And when they showed the dumb ass * smirking and laughing about the erroneous information he spoke of in his speech to the nation regarding the yellow cake, I was ready to throw something at the television. The man is insane.

He claimed there was a massive Nuclear Program in Iraq during the timeframe of
the First Gulf War.

Israel had pretty much put an end to that program with a raid in 1981.

See here...

http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/program/docs/41osi.html

Otherwise, it was well done.

God Damn Cheney and Rummy are evil. Soooooooooooo evil. These two mass-murdering bloodsuckers have been a symbiotic tumor in this country's brain for over three decades now. How they have co-opted the nation's "intelligence" into the Pentagon is just about the most horrible thing I've ever seen or heard of. The results of this indescribable evil have been 2,500 dead American soldiers, 20,000 more wounded, and of those almost 9,000 too wounded to return to service (which means they've probably lost limbs or had their faces burned off), 300 billion dollars of treasure and quickly counting and between 100,000 and 200,000 innocent Iraqis. Oh, and let's not forget about the two unidentifiable (headless?) corpses on their way back to Delaware. Jesus Christ.

Ford, Reagan and BushI...

BushII has only been the latest and most successful manifestation of their madness.

I wouldn't have known about it without DU.

I watched and it was amazing. There was enough evidence in this documentary to convict the whole lot of them and send them to prison for eternity -- now we just need to get someone with the authority to do it. Show this to a grand jury!

The people they interviewed were all marvelous -- so many CIA people who left within the last couple of years.

notice all CIA personnel were terminated after 2004, after Tenet resigned for personal reasons and Pete Goss is hired to..."clean-up the cia??

Never saw such an incriminating documentary that clearly show what Rice,Cheney,Wolfowitz,Rumsfeld,Powell were clearly guilty of as this power-driven war continues
a sad time for Amerika...yes in deed!