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SavetheUSA Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:23 PM
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Open letter to Jan Schakowsky: A Solution to the Election Fraud
This is written by a blogger from Alaska who is running against Don "Bridges to Nowhere" Young...

Dear Rep. Schakowsky,

Regarding your recent revelation,

'Was the 2004 Election Stolen?', I am convinced that the only answer is yes.

First off I'd like to note that you do not discuss holding the crooks accountable, only an upcoming effort to "ward off a repeat performance." If the election was stolen, why should we be forced to live one more day with BushCo's idiotic policies? If you're convinced the election was stolen why don't you introduce articles of impeachment? Today!

Secondly, here is a simple, yet effective solution to the election fraud, and it can be implemented nationwide immediately, with virtually no extra cost. If you truly wish to prevent election fraud in 2006- then please introduce this bill into the House ASAP.

The Transparent Elections Bill
(This is for all elections, primaries too!)

1. Precincts will print and post the vote totals at the voting location.

2. Counties will post the precinct totals from every precint in the County.

3. States will post the County totals.

4. The results will remain posted for two weeks after the election.

That's it. A solution to the election fraud.

Even with Diebold, the vote can only be stolen when the votes are counted in secret and the statewide results are posted, but not the local precinct and county results. It's impossible for Honest Election Advocates to canvas the whole state, but it is possible for us to canvas a local precinct- like Bob Fitrakis and friends did in Ohio, 2005.(http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/1046)

In Miami County, Blackwell certified a 98.6% turnout in the Concord Southwest precinct, comprised of 520 votes for Bush and 157 for Kerry. This statistically improbable turnout has all but 10 of the 689 registered voters casting their ballots on Election Day. A preliminary canvas by The Free Press of less than half the precinct found 25 registered voters admitting they had not voted, meaning the official tally was almost certainly fraudulent.
http://benfrank.net/patriots/elections/solution_to_fraud
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:32 PM
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1. seems like a good start. but...

there is more to this whole issue, such as keeping people from registering to vote, and taking people off the voter roles by faulty matching to convict records, and inadiquate voting machines, and ...and ...and...goes on and on. The republicans are perfecting the process of dissenfrachising millions of voters.
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SavetheUSA Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:37 PM
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3. of course!
Those issues are so freaking obvious it is ridiculous that it is still happening.

After the Conyers report, you would think that our Representatives would be doing everything they can to prevent this overt election fraud from happening again...but they are still looking the other way for the next part, focusing on issues that will win the next election. Well How the Fu** are they going to win anything with the Republicans cheating this way? WAKE UP 'REPRESENTATIVES!"
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:35 PM
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2. Please add 1 thing
In any precinct where the votes totaled does not equal the number of votes of those who signed
the poll book then voters will get a chance to participate in a "special election" with
paper ballots. This will eliminate cases like mine in Baltimore, where I estimated the vote
was actually 2100 but the machine count was 944 for my precinct in 2004 and cases where the
votes exceeds the actual number of registered voters but the count is allowed to stand because
"there is no ballot."
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SavetheUSA Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:41 PM
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4. exactly!
This is what happened in the last Alaska election and they won't tell anyone why the numbers don't match. The discrepency is 100,000 votes! First they blamed it on diebold not giving out the info, then when diebold said 'go ahead' the Alaska division of elections said no we can't give out the password. It is absurd. There should be another special election...absolutely. It is possible the US senate should have one more democrat right now. Lisa Murkowski, a person Alaskans are very unhappy with considering the nepotism involved in her appointment to the senate, was 'elected' in this fishy circumstance.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:47 PM
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5. Here a fact we have a Senator Barbara Mikulski
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 12:47 PM by MissWaverly
who is one gutsy lady, who according to David Brooks was the only Senator who really asked
questions of Michael Hayden. Now when she ran, Diebold actually left her name off the ballot
in 4 of our counties in Maryland. She won anyway, but Diebold was really sorry, you just
don't realize how sorry they were. But what is the outcome, the race is not reheld, and
whatever mistakes are left to stand. It's an outrage. And I waited 2 hours to vote in
my precinct only to see that my voting macine was rigged to vote Republican. It doesn't matter
whether Diebold did it or a computer saavy hacker, I don't care. If the vote is tainted
then the election should be reheld.
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SavetheUSA Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:02 PM
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6. wow
I was just watching a video last night on what they did in Ohio. They had precincts across the street from eachother and wouldn't tell people which one to wait at so they would wait in line for two hours only to be sent across the street. You and others who wait hours to vote like that are the true patriots in this country! That is what made is so hard for people when Kerry quit before the fight.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:15 PM
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8. I saw a blind man humiliated at my polling place
there he was in the heat with his dog, and the poll worker actually screamed at him: "don't
expect any special treatment from us, you'll have to wait your turn like everybody else."
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:05 PM
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7. I like the simplicity of your idea--like the simplicity of paper ballots
hand-counted at the precinct level. LOCAL transparency. But I see two problems: one is absentee ballots; the other is touchscreen voting (no paper trail, and even if there is a paper trail, it's just something the computer spits out, that could say anything).

But it's a start! It's a great idea! It's outrageous that the vote is NOT posted!

We have to start SOMEWHERE. This doesn't solve the problem of voter purges, or voter IDs, or touchscreen voting, but it gets the ball rolling in the direction of TRANSPARENCY. It will result in some accurate, verifiable counts; catch some crooks; act as a preventative; and, as we gradually start electing real representatives of the people, they will help us with these other things.

Hoorah for you! I'm going to include this in my American Revolution II recommendations for the immediate future. One of the other important ones is absentee ballot voting. It's not the total answer, by any means, but it does provide a tangible record of your vote to help with investigations and challenges (important to investigators in 2004), and it is an ordinary citizen protest against the machines. If enough people do it (and many are), the machines will become obsolete; then we can work on getting rid of the central electronic tabulators.

Perhaps there should be an equally prominent posting of absentee ballot votes at the country registrar's office, and I would add: NO ANNOUNCEMENT OR CERTIFICATION OF RESULTS UNTIL **ALL** BALLOTS, INCLUDING ABSENTEE BALLOTS, ARE COUNTED!
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SavetheUSA Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:23 PM
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9. I like paper ballots
It is so absurd that the reason we went in the direction of voting machines is speed and accuracy roflmao...and convenience for the vote counter.

Well What about the voter? I think people in line for four hours could have easily voted by paper ballot in say five minutes???? I am sure they could find enough volunteers to count them,and verify the count in a short amount of time... no problem. The whole premise of voting machines is a lie.

and I agree with your thoughts on absentee ballots...
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:31 PM
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10. Yep: I'm all for paper only.
Paper ballots, handcounted in public. They do this in France, according to my french friend, and it doesn't actually take that long. We waited for a month for the result in 2000; surely a few extra hours won't hurt! Absentee ballots could be counted at the same time.

It's actually totally insane that we allow any kind of secretive vote counting!

The only advantage I see of electronic voting machines is for handicapped people. Surely there's a solution that will allow the handicapped to vote privately and independently without making every American use a machine, though.

Public posting of results is also a total no-brainer. :thumbsup:

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SavetheUSA Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:13 PM
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11. !!"Public posting of results is also a total no-brainer"!!
I know sheesh....ya think we'd stop spreading democracy until we got our's right.

They hand count in Canada and are done by evening. Sure there are fewer people, but I am sure we could round up the volunteers required for the numbers in country, and people would be more than willing after everything that has happened.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:43 PM
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12. ask the college students to help us as a non-partisian
community based thing with election watchers.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:46 PM
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13. could I just tweak your post
I think the absentee ballots process should be revised so that they could be counted in early
voting, this would prevent using bogus absentee ballots to stuff the ballot boxes as needed
after the polls "close"
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SavetheUSA Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:17 PM
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14. if only
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