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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:18 PM
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we need leaders with the courage to advocate "cutting and running..."
...without being drawn into semantic debates, if that's what it takes to end the horror of the war against Iraq. So to Hastert, and Frist, and all their colleagues I say "damn right, America should cut and run from Iraq." Anyone of good character cuts and runs from circumstances that would involve them in commiting a crime, and the war against Iraq is utterly criminal in every respect. People of good conscience cut and run from deliberate acts of evil, and aggression against the people of Iraq is evil without any redemption whatsoever.

There is no shame in "cutting and running" from shameful conduct. A coward finds it easier to stay the course than to admit his error and stop it.

I support anyone who wants to "cut and run" from Iraq. It's time for Americans to stop kidding themselves. The war against Iraq is a disaster that is doing great harm to America, both at home and abroad. Cutting and running is the only sensible course to take. Call it whatever you like, but "cutting and running" is just fine with me.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:22 PM
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1. Absolutely! It should be: Cut the Crap & Run the Government!
Turn it back on them! Not only that, it's bumper sticker length! :thumbsup:
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:28 PM
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7. Or 'Cut their paycheck$' and 'Run after all neoCON$"
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 01:32 PM by Amonester
Make 'em pay.

(1 trillion pay back and then, send 'em to The Hague.)


On edit: 1 'important' $ sign missing.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:33 PM
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11. That's very good
Particularly the cut the crap part. We're way past the hip boot stage, full body wading suits aren't enough to get through the crap spewed by these idiots.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:24 PM
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2. We won the 'war on Iraq' three years ago. We are in occupation now
BTW. It is Bush's War. And it is long over. It is time to end the occupation and turn the country back to those who live there. It is time to use our heads and protest our real interests.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:25 PM
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3. 'Stay the Course' = molding blood into gold bricks for the GOP
We need to highlight that every damn day. The only function of our troops over there is to line the pockets of Republicans.

I'm tired of killing people on both sides so the PNAC cabal can feast on their remains like a dark red Merlot.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:26 PM
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4. Cut n Run as opposed to Lie n Die
Which would you choose???
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:26 PM
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5. My response would be: Cut & Run? Why dont you cut the CRAP?
And level witht he American people? These dishonest soundbites got us into this war, but they wont get us out of it...war is not a TV commercial-"


But most DEMS would be too frightened to say this, I guess because Sean Hannity & Ann Coulter will be mean to them or something.

Cut & Run? I say we cut the CRAP and level with the American people for a change.

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:30 PM
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8. I love it!
(see #1 above) Every Dem should walk to all available microphones and make it their mantra: Cut the crap and run the government! They could even put in a 'for God's sake!' in front of it. *wink*
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:31 PM
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9. "...because Sean Hannity & Ann Coulter will be mean to them..."
Bingo! When we look at the nature of the folks who try to politicize accusations of cowardice, we really should see just how bankrupt that argument is.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:26 PM
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6. We need leaders, not lemmings!
with all due respect to lemmings, who really don't commit mass suicide
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:31 PM
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10. "People of good conscience cut and run from deliberate acts of evil"
That's a great line.

We need to educate people that the occupation of Iraq is NOT making America safer against terrorism. Our occupation has nothing to do with terrorism except that it's making it proliferate.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:33 PM
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12. You won't see this on the likes of CNN, MSNBC, or others but.........
....Kerry, Dean, and others have come out with "Lie and Die" as well as "Stay and Pay" to counteract the "cutting and running". Democrats/Liberals are trying to counteract the Neocons but of course that liberal media must have other looked it.

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:38 PM
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13. Dems need to comeback with CUT THE CRAP
every time Wolfie, Tucker, Matthews, Scarborough, Hannity, Gibson (both of them), Beck, and all the rest of them shoot the "cut n run" talking point at them. Every single time, just say, "Cut n run? We say Cut the Crap!.." then continue with the plan/position to end the occupation.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:17 PM
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17. Sounds good to me - why not get out there and do just that?? nt
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:42 PM
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14. well that's just my point, really....
By "counteracting" the GOP accusations dems simply validate that "cutting and running" is cowardly. By trying so hard to dodge the label they give it power. "Stay and pay," "lie and die"-- there's nothing wrong with those slogans, but by trying to shift the semantics away from the dreaded "cut and run" Kerry and Dean display their real cowardice-- the fear of facing the truth about what America has done in Iraq, and continues to do while our political leaders try to one-up one another at chest pounding. They fear the perception of weakness while America is literally being destroyed around them. They fear sound bites.

I say screw that. America needs to cut and run. Now, not later.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:45 PM
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15. "CUT AND RUN" is just more Repuglican STRAWMAN Bullshit
so please don't even repeat that nonsense.

Last I read the Pres and VP of IRAQ want a timetable for US to withdraw
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:41 PM
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16. Not 'cut and run'
'Leave and make restitution'.
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