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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:39 PM
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Suskind: Bush "was fixated on how to get Zubaydah to tell us the truth."
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 02:41 PM by BurtWorm
Unfortunately, Zubaydah was insane, in pain, and willing to tell the Bushists whatever they wanted to hear. And furthermore, he wasn't the kingpin they played him up to be:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/19/AR2006061901211_pf.html



Abu Zubaydah, his captors discovered, turned out to be mentally ill and nothing like the pivotal figure they supposed him to be. CIA and FBI analysts, poring over a diary he kept for more than a decade, found entries "in the voice of three people: Hani 1, Hani 2, and Hani 3" -- a boy, a young man and a middle-aged alter ego. All three recorded in numbing detail "what people ate, or wore, or trifling things they said." Dan Coleman, then the FBI's top al-Qaeda analyst, told a senior bureau official, "This guy is insane, certifiable, split personality."

Abu Zubaydah also appeared to know nothing about terrorist operations; rather, he was al-Qaeda's go-to guy for minor logistics -- travel for wives and children and the like. That judgment was "echoed at the top of CIA and was, of course, briefed to the President and Vice President," Suskind writes. And yet somehow, in a speech delivered two weeks later, President Bush portrayed Abu Zubaydah as "one of the top operatives plotting and planning death and destruction on the United States." And over the months to come, under White House and Justice Department direction, the CIA would make him its first test subject for harsh interrogation techniques.

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"I said he was important," Bush reportedly told Tenet at one of their daily meetings. "You're not going to let me lose face on this, are you?" "No sir, Mr. President," Tenet replied. Bush "was fixated on how to get Zubaydah to tell us the truth," Suskind writes, and he asked one briefer, "Do some of these harsh methods really work?" Interrogators did their best to find out, Suskind reports. They strapped Abu Zubaydah to a water-board, which reproduces the agony of drowning. They threatened him with certain death. They withheld medication. They bombarded him with deafening noise and harsh lights, depriving him of sleep. Under that duress, he began to speak of plots of every variety -- against shopping malls, banks, supermarkets, water systems, nuclear plants, apartment buildings, the Brooklyn Bridge, the Statue of Liberty. With each new tale, "thousands of uniformed men and women raced in a panic to each . . . target." And so, Suskind writes, "the United States would torture a mentally disturbed man and then leap, screaming, at every word he uttered.


<I was tipped off to this link via Talking Points Memo.>
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:41 PM
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1. Bush is a mentally deranged man....
the fact that we allowed him to become our leader will haunt this country for generations to come.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:43 PM
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2. Our tax dollars at work.
When Republicans are in charge.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:52 PM
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3. Bush: "If it turns out to be Zawahiri's head, I hope you'll bring it here"
Suskind titles one chapter "Zawahiri's Head," a reference to Ayman al-Zawahiri, al-Qaeda's second in command, whom Suskind cheekily dubs "bin Laden's Cheney, the older man who made sure that ideas were carried to action." At least four times in 2001-02, reports reached Washington that Zawahiri had died. One set of Afghan tribal chiefs said they could prove it. In June, they delivered a mud-caked head, and an intelligence officer flew it in a metal box to Dulles airport for DNA analysis. Coleman, the FBI analyst, held the jawless skull "as Hamlet did with Yorick's." It felt, he tells Suskind, "like a boccie ball." Bush, who was tracking the transaction, reportedly told a briefer -- "half in jest," Suskind writes -- that "if it turns out to be Zawahiri's head, I hope you'll bring it here." It turned out to be someone else's.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:01 PM
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4. *The One Percent Doctrine* is going on my reading list. k/r
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:11 PM
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5. Mine too.
Meanwhile, if you haven't already, read James Risen's State of War. They seem to go hand in hand.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:14 PM
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6. Roger that. Thanks!
:hi:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:15 PM
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7. Bush asked "Do some of these harsh methods really work?"
Is it time to impeach him, yet?

:shrug:

Censure?

:shrug:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:43 PM
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8. I can't figure out why FOX is promoting this book so hard.
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:59 PM
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9. neither can I ? EOM
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 09:43 PM
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12. Two possibilities: 1) The plot to poison NYC is nice and scary
2) They think Cheney's 1% solution shows what tough guys Republicans are.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 07:44 PM
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10. We should fixate on getting asswipe to tell the truth.
After he does that then maybe people will realize that 9-11 was an inside job.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 08:25 PM
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11. The incompetence is breathtaking...
Fumbling, bumbling, half-wits.
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