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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:43 PM
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Remember, Rove denied any involvement in the Plame Leak
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 03:43 PM by dogday
Reporting that Rove avoided indictment, broadcast networks left out his, White House's false statements during CIA leak investigation

Summary: Broadcast networks covering the news that special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald reportedly told White House senior adviser Karl Rove that he does not anticipate charging Rove in connection with the CIA leak investigation left out key information concerning Rove's conduct and the false and misleading information put out by the White House concerning the matter. Rove's history of falsely claiming that he was not involved in disclosing CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity was ignored or downplayed, as was the White House's false denials of Rove's role.

Broadcast networks covering the news that special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald reportedly told White House senior adviser Karl Rove that he does not anticipate charging Rove in connection with the CIA leak investigation left out key information concerning Rove's conduct and the false and misleading information put out by the White House concerning the matter. June 13 reports on NBC's Nightly News and the CBS Evening News failed to note that Rove falsely told reporters during the course of the investigation that he was not involved in disclosing CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity to reporters or that former White House press secretary Scott McClellan also relayed Rove's false claim to reporters. While ABC's World News Tonight aired footage of Rove denying he leaked Plame's name, it was portrayed as being offset by Rove returning to the grand jury and "saying he had forgotten the conversation" with a reporter; ABC also did not note the repeated denials by Rove and the White House. By contrast, reports in The Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, and the Associated Press all included Rove's falsehoods in their June 14 reports.

AP staff writer Pete Yost noted that "he decision not to charge Karl Rove shows there often are no consequences for misleading the public." Yost further noted that, "by misleading reporters, the White House saved itself from a political liability during the 2004 presidential campaign":

http://mediamatters.org/items/200606150001
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:45 PM
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1. Mr President, did Rove lie to you?
or are you covering for him by lying to the American public?

That's the question that needs to be asked.

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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:52 PM
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3. The other question is:
Mr. pResident, did YOU lie to the American public?

That's the other question that needs to be asked.

(Even if we already know the TRUE answers to both R yes.)
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:36 PM
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5. What did he know and when did he know it nt
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:48 PM
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2. nothing about political campaigns and truthfulness matters to the M$M
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hudunit Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 04:43 AM
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20. Guess that's true for our guys too
I mean, I have $90k in my fridge, and one wants to make a big deal about it.

Heck, the FBI even got a video of me walking away with $100k.

I hope they don't ask what I did with the $10k...............
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 08:03 AM
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21. Ummm... his own people demanded he step down
Isn't that enough for you? True Democrats don't want corruption anywhere.

I smell trollshit.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:28 AM
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22. But at least people have not died from those lies
Between the war and Plamegate, the republicans have managed to kill hundreds of thousands of people... I would say that is a little more important....
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:27 PM
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4. indeed
:kick:
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Techno Dog Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:48 PM
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6. Yes indeed
I wish it were criminal for politicians to lie to constituents. Of course we would need those emergency immigration camps Halliburton is building to hold them all.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:50 PM
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7. And Rove would still be a Liar
And people are dying for a lie. Cut and Run, no they would rather Lie and Die.. And their lies are causing our soldiers to die.....
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Techno Dog Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:25 PM
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12. Yes he would
and yes they are.

I think we need a War on Liars. All liars.
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:54 PM
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8. Was the fat pig under oath when he denied any involvement?
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:55 PM
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9. Rumsfeld claims that all government officials are sworn to tell the truth
on another thread, so they don't need to "swear to tell the truth" in court. Does that mean we can prosecute Bush and Rove?
(it's rhetorical.. Of course we can....)
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:07 PM
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10. And we want to SEE this "Letter" Rove got from Fitz!!!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:17 PM
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11. Both Fitz and Rove are responsible to US...American People...We Pay
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 05:18 PM by KoKo01
Their Salaries.

I think each has an obligation to Inform us of what's going on. Instead we get "Cloak & Dagger" stuff from both of them.

I'm really so disgusted with the whole investigation right now...it's hard to deal. But, Fitz should answer more than he is. He might be working for the "good guys" in the Justice Department but it's hard to take that on "faith" alone given that the Bushies shut down every negative news item or investigator that tries to shed a light on their "Organized Crime" Mis-Adminstration.

If Rove received a FAX instead of a proper Legal Letter then we need to know why. I worked in a Law Office before Computers took over...but I'm telling you in a "high profile case like this" a "Fax or Phone Call just wouldn't have been appropriate. I suppose folks could say "times have changed" and in our informal world Fitz would have thought a Phone or Fax was appropriate. But, what I've read of Fitz, it doesn't seem he would act in such an "inappropriate way" legally unless he was just "confirming" something he'd already sent to Rove in a written document...a formal letter of notification.

I'd like to read what others who may have worked in the Legal System here think about this. But, so far none of our "Liberal Legal Eagles" have found any fault with this BIZARRE communication from Fitz to Rove as a Fax or some reports as a phone call.

What's going on here. Something just isn't correct even in our informal times as to what's going on with this "Investigation," at the highest levels in our Country.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:48 PM
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13. Is it official?
AFAIK Fitz never clearly stated Rove did anything in any of his docs or press statements. Until he does, Rove is off the hook, OFFICIALLY. Reports of hearsay mean nothing.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:54 PM
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14. Is it official he lied
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 05:56 PM by dogday
Read the article... He made statements in the past saying he was never involved at all... Obviously he is involved, he has been called 5 times to testify.. That alone shows he is not truthful...

Reports of hearsay... Not quite, from the mouth of the pig himself he doth speaketh his lies....




Rove falsely told reporters during the course of the investigation that he was not involved in disclosing CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity to reporters or that former White House press secretary Scott McClellan also relayed Rove's false claim to reporters.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 06:17 PM
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15. Has Fitz ever said he was involved?
Its not enough that he was forced to testify. Fitz never named him in connection with anything. White House Official A still could be anybody-- until we hear more from Fitz.

Fitz obviously is keeping Rove's name clear as part of some deal. He's taking the word of a lying treasonous slimy murderin' bastard. I have no doubt Fitz will one day nail this slug but for now he's able to happily ooze his slime across every congressional campaign in the country.

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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 06:25 PM
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16. This is not about Fitz investigiation, this is about Public Statements
This is about statements Rove made to the public and...

Again read below:

Rove falsely told reporters during the course of the investigation that he was not involved in disclosing CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity to reporters or that former White House press secretary Scott McClellan also relayed Rove's false claim to reporters.

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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 06:36 PM
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17. You just don't get it
but I tell you, you sound like a Rove Apologist, I am sorry to say....
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 07:28 PM
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18. "Its now known..."
Fact is Rove can only be accused of denying "involvement" if Fitzgerald's office releases a statement saying that he was. All the other reports are simply hearsay. Reporters claim he testified about "forgetting" the conversation, but Fitz has never verified that. Tell Fitz to put it in writing. Until then KKKarl is free. Simple as that.

Blame Fitz, not me.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 07:29 PM
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19. Not for public statements
but you keep apologizing now ya hear...
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