Ok,so my husband's daughter and her family came in

from New Mexico for Father's day.Her husband and I started talking politics and he is a repuke....so I'm sure my husband's daughter votes that way too. I asked him how he thought things were now,under bu$h and he said it was just fine as far as he was concerned and that it was a lot better now than when Clinton was in office. I asked him WHY???? I said "can you please explain to me how things are so much better now when gas prices are through the roof,which makes everything else go up,the billions spent on this useless war.......he wouldn't even let me finish. I said "please explain to me your way of thinking,I'm trying to understand it,but I need for you to explain to me how you think we are so much better off now"......the only answer I got from him was "I don't want to talk politics with you....you have your way of thinking,I have mine. I will not discuss politics with you".

The stupid coward couldn't give me an answer so his way out was "I don't want to talk about it".
He's retired from the service and is a real "bush supporter". They came here Sunday morning and all I did was cook and clean up after them,made them feel welcome. They also had their 3 grandkids with them and they stayed here until Monday morning. Yes, this big bad "Liberal" made sure they had plenty of food to eat and a place to stay,but my way of thinking was wrong to him. Repukes hate Liberals so much.... but only when they're not taking from them. It's really a shame they are so brain washed. Today's repukes are this Era's Jim Jone's Kool-Aid drinkers. :puke:

koolaid and go to their deaths with pleasure because of their undying belief in the Evil one.

I'm so proud of you for your actions..it takes a Huge Liberal to do that! :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock:

I wouldn't be a republican if my life depended on it. Their priorities are ALL screwed up. :hi:

My guess is that he'll start to stay home on election day.

is to engage a liberal in a real conversation about politics with facts tossed in. I'm retired military and I hate george bush and my hate is rational. And I kicked ass in the stock market in the 90's and Clinton did not send one servicemember to his death in a combat zone. Oh the fucking horrors of doing that.

to hear THEM tell it. There couldn't be enough nut houses built to house all these idiots.

You should have kicked him out of your house, and told him they were never welcome again.

:sarcasm: :eyes:

You should had said to him (since he is vet), how do he like his vet medical is being taken away by his own party and don't take care of vets that is coming back from Iraq who is injured and their family? Yea, Republicans are real vet supporters. :crazy: :eyes:

that's been my experience

I ask because my husband and I are going out of state to visit his family soon, and his family is pretty staunchly Republican, but not politically active, and get all their information from the internet and small-town newspapers.

We're going to be there a few days. His mother will cook and clean while we are there, and his father will offer us help and advice on all matters. I'm certain the subject of politics will come up, it always does, and I'm not very good at arguing on my feet, and neither do I wish to spend our limited time together in discussion on subjects they'd rather remain ignorant about. In the past I've chosen to respond with silence to my MIL when she says "They hate us for what we have have," and on our last visit, when my FIL brought up illegal immigration I politely told him that I preferred to talk about other matters, and he agreeably changed the subject.

My point is this: My husband and I are obviously of a different political persuasion than the rest of his large family. His parents, however, come to visit us 1-2 times a year, and we travel there 1-2 times a year in order to see his parents, brothers and sisters, and all the nieces and nephews. I've never had anyone antagonize me for my beliefs, and neither have I antagonized them. When I am asked a direct question related to my feelings on current events, I'll either answer it or ask that the subject be changed, but the subject doesn't often come up. They know how I feel, I know how they feel, and I think we all prefer to focus not on our differences, but on what we have in common..... how nice it is to have the whole family together, the joy of summertime, and the fun that comes from hanging around with a dozen kids.

I think your son-in-law was doing a good thing when he chose not to talk politics during the visit. Maybe your stepdaughter asked him not to. After all, why ruin a perfectly good visit with family by raising a big stink about differences in values and beliefs? I know, and it's obvious that you know too how terrible the Bush Regime is. Hopefully someday your stepdaughter and her husband will wake up to the horror too. Like you, these differences exist in my family too, but I'm not willing to mess with the goodwill between my family and my husband's family by calling them stupid repuke kool-aid drinkers. I just don't have the energy to harbor that kind of resentment and anger and direct it to people so close to my heart.

It would cause me great sadness if I found out that my MIL was pissed off and calling me names, and expressing resentment that she cooked, cleaned, and welcomed us on our visit BUT BY GUM I just didn't agree with her point of view, so I was a stupid DemocRAT coward for refusing to talk about a contentious matter with her. She wouldn't do that, I know, and I love her for her kindness and generosity.

My point, is I think it's better for all of us to choose love. I also think we best lead and teach those around us by example, not by antagonism.

(though, of course, you should cope in the way that works for you.)
We can't just change the subject and be polite. I wish we could. But the situation in our country is dire. We're at the critical point that other countries have been at before. With, often, disastrous results. Then we ask, why...why didn't their citizens do something before their country dissolved into ardent nationalism and fascism.
We love our country. We want it to be the best country on earth. We want to honor our Constitution and our democratic heritage.
Being silent - go along to get along - is dangerous. The opposition doesn't realize that, yes, people like you and me exist. They think it's just those Hollywood wackos. Those Ivy League demogogues. The New York Times.
No. It's all of us. We need to speak up more. Not less. Even to our friends and relatives. Respectfully. But speak up, nonetheless.
It's too late for Emily Post and graciousness.
I wish it wasn't.

We are at the point that several other generations have faced in America, where each person must choose either the path of liberty or the path of supporting tyranny. Many people do not realize yet that normalcy is a thing of the past, and the hour of decision is upon us. That moment of choice came to those who had to decide between the Sons of Liberty and the loyalists. It came for those who chose to aid the Underground Railroad, and to march to Selma, and to sit at lunch counters.

Families were torn apart. Neighbors took up arms against each other. The process is happening again. Will you choose liberty, or tyranny? And what will you do about it? Those questions can't be avoided.

I am tired of "keeping quiet" to get along. That's what republicans want us to do. It's their way or the highway. I am a good,kind caring person and I get offended by repukes who disrespect me because of MY beliefs. My values and issues are just as important as THEIRS. I can't see where they get that idea that Liberals are so bad. It's like we have the plague or something. We can be good to them but they still can't stand us. BTW.......Just as I posted this thread my electric went off and I couldn't engage in conversation with the people who posted in here. It was a pretty bad storm,but thankfully my electric wasn't off for very long.:hi:

That's why Repubs turn into ostriches when you point out to them what a collosal fuck-up their beloved Chimp is.

That's ok. When they pull that whole "I don't wanna talk about politics, I have my way, you have yours," I just chuckle to myself and hand 'em a beer.

We're Right. They're Wrong. They know that.

It's very exciting talking, even to complete strangers, slipping little observations into whatever is going on, and then moving on quickly to let them contemplate what you said.

Any day I happen upon an opportunity to do this is a good day for me. It cheers me up a little about all of those ignoramusses (sp?) out there.

They can get really ticked off too. I'll never understand how so many people can be so stupid.To them good is bad,up is down.....their whole universe is phucked up......LOL

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He doesn't care what they are doing, so long as he is part of the doing unto others what would send him screaming for blood. Massive delusions of power.

At least that's what I heard.

He was right not to discuss politics with you. My guess is that his wife told him, prior to arrival, to keep his mouth shut. It doesn't matter whose opinions are better informed, you both have strong opinions. Neither party will sway the other. Trying will only end with bad feelings.

The only way to deal with it is to NEVER mention politics. I know what the above posters are saying, that we HAVE to address these vital issues -- but I know for a FACT that it's not me who will ever change their minds. Now, if I write an anonymous letter to the paper and they read it, that might have an effect. But family members are different. Personal egos and relationships are involved.

It's like telling your daughter you hate her new boyfriend. It might be true, and he might be a total ass. But if she hears it from you, she's just going to cling more tightly to him.

Here she is on SSI,lives alone and has it pretty rough just trying to survive. She got angry with me because I tried to explain to her what bu$h was doing....what he is really all about. HER answer to me was "well at least he isn't getting blow jobs in the Oval office". "At least he brought morals back in the White House. I swear,I wanted to puke buckets. She would rather bend over and get the screwing from bu$h's policies rather than vote for someone who would be more interested in helping her. It's a real phucked up country anymore. Dummies.

over for a meal once to make them feel welcome. After that, they can go out with or without you and your husband and pay for themselves.

The kids are 6,11 and 3. I made sure they had fun and I kept them stuffed.......LOL. The kids have had a rough life.....their parents are a total waste and that is why the grandparents have them. I missed those kids after they left.They are all so cute and I felt sorry for them. The father had molested the little girl. It breaks my heart to think about what that poor little girl went through. I'd take them myself if I could.

how's that for being too close to a repuke for comfort?

This family member is a very nice guy, also is doing very well under this admin financially speaking. Did not approve of going to war, but keeps supporting the asshats.

That really is phucked up. It's understandable for the people who are doing well to support those pigs.......but how can the poor people do it?

he is filth and sub-human.

I just have to keep politics out of it. They live in New Mexico,we live in Ohio. That's enough distance to keep us separated for a while......LOL

he wasn't censoring himself because of you, now was he? it's a two way street

Votes that way, too. I let it go. Blood is thicker than....

Why put up with it if it caused you such stress?

That is so funny! He probably couldn't explain himself, so that's why he didn't want to talk politics with you. Of course, if the topic was about Clinton and Monica, he would have given you an ear full. That's republicans for ya. What idiots!

Thanks for sharing your story.

Especially on Father's Day.