Overheard in a resturant today: 'We should bomb their cities into

rubble.' Don't know if the guy meant Iraq or just the Middle East in general.

It ruined my appetite and as I left I mumbled to their table 'Bombing cities to rubble? I pray for our country.' I wonder if the guy has any idea that HE is a terrorist.

and decimate the entire Middle East. Ah, W invites the Saudi prince to his Texas ranch. Sixteen of the 19 9/11 bombers were Saudi.

Do the republicans ever engage critical thinking skills?

Every ones were grounded but Bush, his fighters that went with him and the plane to take the Saud i's home but we have never found out just which ones.

NOT!!! We would have every Muslim in the world on our asses... What a bunch of freaking Warmongering Idiots...

regularly, but I really wanted to confront the guy.

What he advocated is terrorism. Oh well, his buddy shops at the store I work at. I will tell him no dice when he tries to make his next purchase. I will not sell to terrorist sympathizers and I will tell him so.

and report back to us immediately.

"hello, how are you today? Hey, didn't I see you at the diner with so and so who said he wanted to bomb the ME to rubble?"

"Sorry! I don't sell to terrorist sympatizers... NO SOUP FOR YOU!"

I will do just as you said and report back. Should see him within a week.

Would your employer agree with you?

every time there is a display of ignorance. Make a fucking scene!

The idea that he's thinking just like al Qaeda did while plotting 9-11 never occurs to him.

And SCREW the babes in their mothers' arms, and the unborn children still in the womb, and the little guys and girls just learning to read, and the slightly older ones who'd like to learn how to play soccer...

Pro-life obviously only applies to unborn WHITE AMERICAN children, eh?

People like this really send me to the edge, I'm telling you.

world would be without these types of people when I realized I was heading to the slippery slope this guy had already slid down!

Like my ex is wont to say..."Some people are just a waste of perfectly good oxygen."

She's not the most generous of people, however, and I find she and I might disagree on WHAT people, but, regardless...some people sure as hell seem like a waste of air.

The fact is, the world WOULD be a better place if people who thought like this fellow weren't here. It's a fact, jack.

...And I work in complaints and grievances, we get some good ones.

people who say these type of things are often the same ones that are so big on religion and pushing it on others.

only live to die and be with Allah. Life is meaningless to them.' My guess is that he actually IS religious, but just not capable of achieving a sense of irony.

destroy the alleged spot of the Garden of Eden, Abraham's ancestral home, the Tower of Babel, and other such Biblical locales. I'm not so sure their God would approve.

I knew people during WW2 that said their parents got rid of all things German. I can still hear my mother. 'My God it is not the Germans it is their crazy leaders. How can I get rid of all my Christmas tree things or my great music because their leaders are crazy.' She was the same about Japan. But then we did just about bomb them both off the face of the earth. I am sure about 3 weeks before the war was over in Japan, fire bombing a city with bombs that burned homes and killed about 30,000 really helped win the war. Almost have to use the bombs if you have them way of thinking. No point but we will sure show you.

is that there are CHILDREN there.

The key to winning hearts and minds is being a good example, not a great stomping giant.

I should have punched him and called it a pre-emptive strike. Don't want this terrorism spreading ya know!

coke up my nose. Peace

what happened to these people?

without stirring any significant reaction in many of their fellow citizens, and without any concern for the consequences of such acts (like, perhaps, oil prices increasing dramatically), is an indication of just how far in the wrong direction we've come as a nation.

And we haven't gotten there by accident. Mindless militarism, indifference to human suffering, lack of concern about reality and the effects of one's acts in reality, etc, are all things that been induced, hyped and heightened in (many of) the people as a means of making acceptable (and accepted) acts, ideas, mindsets and people that would have been more widely scorned in the past.

We're a culture and nation that has been cast adrift from our traditional moorings in practical (natural) principle and social ethos. And, frankly, it's hard to see how we can become moored again to these pillars.

In most of our wars the citizens have not been killed but for 911.(if you wish to call this a war) The rest of the world has not been that lucky. Just look at the kill records of any of our wars. It has to be a lot easier to say bomb them all when one has never seen it next door or your own home gone. I recall once I had a German friend who said his uncle walked home from Stalingrad with a stick and one leg blown off. Also that another man in his family had his whole back burned in a bombing. It made me think a little more just how lucky we were in this country and I had been.

I and many of my (then) fellow republicans considered those who advocated mindless militarism (like "taking-over" Iraq in the first Gulf War, after having driven the Iraqis out of Kuwait) as fringe elements -- and laughed in their faces.

Now even more mindless violence is accepted as a matter of course by far too many, and advocates of such things control the republican party.

But, yeah, it's easier for those who have never been exposed to war and its results, and whom it doesn't directly affect, to be indifferent to it.

However, in my lifetime, there has been a considerable sea-change in the "thinking" of many people, be this in terms of simple things like showing other people respect, or in terms of complex things like national policy.

We're a nation reduced to sound-bites, marketing and manipulation -- and "led" (driven) by those who understand (or can use) such things, as opposed to understanding principle and policy -- and being able to effect ends in reality, not just peoples' minds.

I was taken classes in the late 70's and early 80's and once one teacher said to me. 'I am not going to call on you as I know you went to school when they were teaching history.' I was the age of these kids parents. I must say for college kids they were so stupid about history I could hardly believe it. Heck I was doing classes to learn more and most of these kids did not have the back ground to understand the class. I know those kids are not really stupid but in any history they were. History was not my major but you need some to even do English reading subjects just to understand the meaning of a story. Course some people make- up is not to question anything. I drove my mother crazy asking why. Oh well college to me taught me one thing---how much I do not know

Sizzler?

I played golf with a middle aged woman a few weeks ago. When we were on the course she made a big fuss over a family of sandhill cranes with three little babies. When we went in for lunch there were four of us sitting around the table talking and somehow the war in Viet Nam came up. This led to the subject of the Iraqi war and this woman made a comment that she knew what the solution was. We should turn the country of Iraq into an airport parking lot (meaning bomb it into oblivion. Horrified by this statement and unable to understand how someone who cared so much about a family of cranes could have so little compassion for people, I asked, "What about the children who are dying? They're innocent victims." Her reply was that we should kill them too since they were going to grow up just as evil as their parents.

No matter how I try I can't get the look on this woman's face and her words out of my mind. What have Americans become? Why would anyone think it's okay to kill children. Doesn't she realize that millions of Muslims are now saying that about our children? Isn't this the excuse terrorists use when they slaughter innocent children?

I'm afraid I've come to the conclusion that this woman is the rule rather than the exception and America just isn't a very nice country anymore.

Like any country we've have and had many nice people who meant well and would never advocate murder or genocide to solve problems, but the fact is fear and position move these people meaning here they are their world of country club privledge their only experience with violence being in the movies and they figure eh brown people aren't worth as much as me, I don't see any arabs in my social circle so they aren't real people, screw em if my government has to kill a thousand of them so I can sleep safely through the night then so be it.


Welcome to DU btw

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

Very kind of you to take the time to welcome me. Thanks

Maud

"nuke 'em". This was several years ago before he passed away and he'd say it in reference to just about anything that was against the US and on foreign soil.

Come to find out he said it to rile me. He was a die-hard democrat from Oklahoma. We had some great debates when he was living. I told my repub mom that he would have liked to drink a beer with bush, but would have walked away calling him a fruitcake. Dad always called people he didn't like a fruitcake.

On the outside, you'd swear up and down he was a repub by the way he talked, but if you got to know him, you'd find out he was a Clinton-loving liberal with a gun. :) I do miss him a lot.

Your post reminded me of him for some reason.

"they" are humans with families, feelings, lives, JUST LIKE US!! They don't want that war on their soil any more than we would want it on ours. I can't imagine wanting to bomb familes and kill people the way some so casually suggest. That is sick.

... but THAT is the problem with the country. VAST swaths of the country believe that.

That's what has to be changed. The people. The politicians are a REFLECTION of the people. Stupid, bigoted, and shortsighted.

They're out to get us, they hate freedom (so, paradoxically, we have to get rid of more and more of it- so there's less of it to hate) they are comin' in through the cracks in the wallboard, and if we don' fight 'em there we'll fight 'em here...

(Don't you remember how the Viet Cong invaded Hawaii after we pulled out of Vietnam?)

Com'nists, Ter'rists, Atheists, Muslims...

The important thing isn't who the enemy is-

the important thing is that there IS an enemy.

be able to identify that enemy. And what better way than through the color of their skin? First it will be brown-skinned people...then it will be "swarthy-skinned" white people with brunette hair, then it will be ANYONE who is NOT a blue-eyed, blonde caucasian...hmmmmmmmmm...sound familiar?

(I guess that includes brown-haired people who like to call themselves "dirty blondes.")

And they claim they are fighting against the terrorists. :eyes:

Makes no sense to me how a lot of Repugs will say this, but at the same time have bought into spreading democracy in the ME and liberating Iraqis as the reasons for war.