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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:24 AM Original message |
DEMOCRATS VOTING NO TO KERRY/FEINGOLD PLAN |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. Alas, to be expected... |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. NEITHER WILL PASS - THE GOP IS UNIFIED |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. All right, all right. I know... |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. no, that is why the Dems should TAKE A STAND |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:43 AM Response to Reply #9 |
40. Folks could have expected it.. |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:46 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. really? |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:56 AM Response to Reply #44 |
62. Without timetables.. |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:58 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. I'm not saying it does accomplish anything at all... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:01 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Well good.. |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #71 |
77. I think that's a fine idea. If Lamont wins... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:11 AM Response to Reply #77 |
86. Why you... |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
35. Write him & politely ask him that question |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. We have NO representative government. |
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Terran1212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
28. Can we throw these Senators out at their primaries ? |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:17 AM Response to Reply #28 |
89. Vote Tasini in NY |
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yngliberal (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
3. They will never have a backbone...only a select few (n/t) |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
4. In fairness, it is now the Kerry-Feingold plan. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. your right |
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INdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
79. This is the Democratic ticket in 2008 |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
6. After the speach Harry gave on the floor I can't understand why |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. I just caught the tail end of it...and caught the thread |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. The only thing I can think of that would make sense is that Kerry's |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
29. the difference is the timetables set by Kerry |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. And is there a certain part of the Democratic caucus which sees |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. apparently |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:42 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Hmmmmmm. |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
59. Correct me if I'm wrong, but |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
8. They are simply keeping it from being a campaign issue |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. BUT IT IS THE PLAN AMERICA WANTS |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:32 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. We think so, but unless the Congress agrees - it becomes a rhetoric game |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. You make an excellent point... |
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Terran1212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
21. The people's needs are less important than superficial campaigns |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:35 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. "superficial campaigns" are what have created Repuke control |
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Terran1212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:54 AM Response to Reply #26 |
58. It's IMPOSSIBLE for Clinton to lose |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:56 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Ok. |
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Terran1212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #61 |
81. Speaking of Howard Zinn |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
24. MAJORITY of American people agree with 13 Dem Senators on Iraq withdrawal |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. I agree - but until the evil slimey Rovesters lose an election |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:01 AM Response to Reply #30 |
70. Stick to BASIC TRUTH AND LOGIC - and use paper ballots - and all will be |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:13 AM Response to Reply #70 |
87. I wish it were as simple as that. |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
64. I think the anger stems from the fact that it SHOULD be a campaign issue |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:03 AM Response to Reply #64 |
75. It's nothing like that - their votes are far more pragmatic than that |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #75 |
92. If they want more independent voters |
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INdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
69. I dont understand your logic.. |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:10 AM Response to Reply #69 |
85. Because in many states they are winning by a few percent |
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INdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Whatever happen to a member of Congress voting for the will of the |
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WestHoustonDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
10. Taking names. They will regret it n/t |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Reid's my Senator...I'm already starting the letter |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:40 AM Response to Reply #14 |
34. I hope you are equally hard on the RW Nazi's who never considered |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
52. Well, that's a given. |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
15. MUST.. KEEP... POWDER.... DRY... AT... ALL.... COSTS!!!!! |
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WestHoustonDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
18. Add Obama & Feinstein to the list. |
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Terran1212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
19. And you guys have to ASK why we criticize DEMOCRATS |
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Southsideirish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:38 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. RIght - some Democrats need to be knocked - that's what differentiates |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
20. Hold your breath on Reid |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:33 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. good point |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:35 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I don't know if that is the case - I just know that they do it |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:47 AM Response to Reply #20 |
46. Only on a cloture vote - It makes no sense on an amendment.\nt |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #46 |
54. As long has he's with us on Levin then I will be fine |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
27. How many Dems will join Lieberman in voting against the Levin amendment? |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:47 AM Response to Reply #27 |
47. For some people it's "All or Nothing" |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Who will join Lieberman in voting against even the Levin amendment? |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:54 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Why Nelson, of Florida, of course! Shameful political asscovering! |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:56 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Chafee votes Aye, Pryor and Nelson of Nebraska vote No! |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:49 AM Response to Reply #27 |
51. Clinton, Feingold, Obama are co-sponsors of the Levin amendment |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Make that Feinstein, not Feingold, as Levin amendment cosponsor. |
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lonehalf (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
36. Consider what state he represents and how they vote. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
38. defeated 13 - 86 |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
39. Amendment fails. |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
41. only 13 yeas...now they are on the Levin amendment. eom |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Kerry, Kennedy, Feingold, Harken |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:48 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Akaka, Boxer, Durbin, Leahy, Lautenberg, Inouye |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
42. Thirteen Dems with the guts to stand up for the troops and "get it right." |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
45. isn't there another plan. levin? plan. and isn't there dem senators |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:49 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. they're voting on it now.... |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:49 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. See post #27. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
55. a whole truckload of Dems voting for the Levin bill |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #55 |
63. Okay, I see now... |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:59 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Tom Harkin said it best, both plans WILL NOT PASS |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:02 AM Response to Reply #67 |
73. I had that thought, too. |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #67 |
80. Take a stand? Yeah right. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:59 AM Response to Reply #55 |
68. I know I'll get flamed for this but... |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:03 AM Response to Reply #68 |
74. that would hold true if we were cleaning up the mess |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:07 AM Response to Reply #74 |
83. The timeline should be for how we are going to clean up our mess and leave |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:07 AM Response to Reply #68 |
84. And then again, we may not |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
66. Mr Leiberman, NO |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #66 |
78. Not only voted NO, spent 15 freaking minutes |
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wordpix2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #66 |
96. Mr. Lieberman, I vote NO to you and YES to Lamont. Get the hell out of the |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
72. Levin bill defeated 60-39 |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Who are the Dems who voted against that, except Lieberman? |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #76 |
90. Both Nelsons, Pryor, Lincoln, Landrieu,and Dayton. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. Take Blanche Lincoln off the No list. She voted Yes, to her credit. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:06 AM Response to Reply #72 |
82. With the help of Jeffords and Chafee, no less. A lot of CYA going on here |
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Jeffersons Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
88. IN AMERICA WE HAVE CHICKEN-HAWKS AFRAID TO FIGHT & CHICKEN-SHITS... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
93. I know Feinstein likes the war profits... |
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wordpix2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
94. Dear Dem Leaders, Don't count on my money this year, if I send to anyone, |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. please send it to the DNC |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-22-06 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
97. I HOPE they dump Reid's ass when we take over the Senate in Novemeber. |
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