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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:18 PM
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The U.S. has also used chemical weapons on it's own citizens.
http://starbulletin.com/2002/10/10/news/story6.html

WASHINGTON >> The Pentagon acknowledged yesterday that some soldiers engaged in chemical and biological weapons testing in the 1960s may not have been fully informed about the secret experiments conducted at sea and in five states from Hawaii to Florida. Some tests used the military's deadliest nerve agent, VX.

Thousands of civilians in Hawaii and Alaska also probably were unaware they were sprayed with relatively mild bacteria meant to simulate germ weapons such as anthrax, the Defense Department's top health official said.

Dr. William Winkenwerder, assistant defense secretary for health affairs, said there is no evidence anyone died as a result of the classified tests, which were part of biological and chemical warfare programs the United States abandoned in 1970.

http://deploymentlink.osd.mil/pdfs/pine_ridge.pdf

Sarin filled BLU-19/B23 and BZ filled BLU-20/B23 bomblets were detonated in test areas in the upper Waiakea Forest Reserve and in the Olaa Forest Preserve, southwestof Hilo, on the island of Hawaii in May and June 1966.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:20 PM
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1. Of course there's no evidence anyone died.
The didn't bother to document the people who died, and they burried any information that might make them look bad.
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flashsmith Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:26 PM
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2. That's peanuts
Donald Rumpsfeld launched a biochemical attack against the entire United States when he used his connections with Reagan to have an FDA chairman appointed that would approve his companies product Aspartame (Nutrasweet), despite the FDA's own scientific findings that it was a deadly neuro-toxin.

Saddam and the Pentagon are peanuts compared to the damage Rumpsfeld has done.
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:34 PM
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3. Rumsfeld is a killer. He can take his Aspartame and stick it up his ass!
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:53 PM
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4. Excuse me but this aspartame is sold all over the world,
so we're talking international crime against humanity here (if indeed carried out knowingly).
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I_Make_Mistakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 05:12 PM
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6. What is the European seal of approval (the counter to US FDA)?
I was at the grocery store and this woman started to tell me that her husband works for FDA (It was the soda aisle and the nutri sweet topic started the conversation) and she said that her family would not buy anything with out the European approval "E" something indicator, but I can't remember the full notation.

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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 05:28 AM
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8. On the European system:
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 05:30 AM by Ghost Dog
First: Yes indeed: "E951 Aspartame. Aspartame sugar substitutes cause worrying symptoms from memory loss to brain tumours. But despite US FDA approval as a ‘safe’ additive, aspartame is one of the most dangerous substances ever to be foisted upon an unsuspecting public. Aspartame is an intense sweetener, approximately 200 times sweeter than sugar. It has been used throughout the world in soft drinks and other low-cal or sugar free foods since 1974. It was first approved for use in the UK in 1982. It is known by the name NutraSweet, aspartame or E951." - http://www.ukfoodguide.net/

Here's the 'official' answer to your question, as provided by "The European Food Information Council, EUFIC, a non-profit organisation which provides science-based information on food and food-related topics to the media, health and nutrition professionals, educators, and opinion leaders.": - http://www.eufic.org/en/quickfacts/food_additives.htm (links added):

3. How is the safety of food additives evaluated in Europe?

All food additives must have a demonstrated useful purpose and undergo a rigorous scientific safety evaluation before they can be approved for use. Until the creation of the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA), the safety evaluation of additives in Europe was done by the Scientific Committee on Food (SCF). At present, it is the EFSA Panel on Food Additives, Flavourings, Processing Aids and Materials in Contact with Food (AFC Panel), who is in charge of this task. At an international level there is a Joint Expert Committee, from the Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) and the World Health Organisation (WHO), on Food Additives (JECFA).

Assessments are based on reviews of all available toxicological data in both humans and animal models. From the available data, the maximum level of additive that has no demonstrable toxic effect is determined. This is called the "no-observed-adverse-effect level" (NOAEL) and is used to determine the "Acceptable Daily Intake" (ADI) for each food additive. The ADI provides a large safety margin and is the amount of a food additive that can be consumed daily over a lifetime without any adverse effect on health.

The SCF before and now the European Food Safety Authority, encourage the lowest possible levels of an additive in a food. To ensure people do not exceed the ADI by consuming too much of, or too many products containing a particular additive, EU legislation requires that studies are done to look at the ranges of intakes across a population and to address any changes in consumption patterns. Occasional intakes over the ADI are unlikely to cause any harm because of the 100-fold safety margin. However, if the ADI might be exceeded by particular sectors of the population, the Commission would assess the need to review levels in foods or reduce the range of foods in which the additive is permitted.

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4. How are food additives regulated in Europe?

A true single market for food products could not exist without harmonised rules for authorisation and conditions for the use of additives. In 1989, the European Community adopted a Framework Directive (89/107/EEC) which set out the criteria by which additives would be assessed and provided for the adoption of three specific technical directives: Directive 94/35/EC on sweeteners; Directive 94/36/EC on colours and Directive 95/2/EC on additives other than sweeteners and colours. These three directives establish the list of additives which could be used (to the exclusion of others), the foods in which they could be used and any maximum levels. The purity required for these additives is laid down in directives defining specific purity criteria.

5. What is an E-number?

An E-number signifies approval of an additive by the EU. To obtain an E-number, the additive must have been fully evaluated for safety by the SCF or the European Food Safety Authority...


Note: "The EFSA is an agency of the European Community (sic: now European Union) and is funded by the Community budget."

(See also Wikipedia entries on E-numbers; Aspartame).

As for Aspartame, it seems to have been approved in Europe by the SCF in 1984: - http://www.aspartame.info/opinion/op_eecscf.html

European Economic Community, Scientific Committee on Foods

During December, 1984, the EEC's Scientific Committee on Foods delivered its analytical report on sweeteners to the Directorate General for Internal Market and Industrial Affairs. That report noted: "The data provided no evidence that the occasional transient changes in blood amino acid levels, following simultaneous ingestion of aspartame and glucose, could produce changes in neurotransmitter levels which might affect mood or behavior".

"The Committee saw not reason for concern over the amounts of methanol likely to be produced by the metabolism of aspartame when compared with those present naturally in food".

"The blood level of phenylalanine in these individuals were raised only slightly and none of them showed any neurological or other clinical abnormal findings, thus supporting the view that large intakes of aspartame in the diet would not cause any untoward effects in these geneotypes".

December 1984
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 05:09 PM
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5. how about the soldiers who were part of the atomic bomb testing? and
the citizens of Utah and New Mexico?

at one time, there was a story going around that many of the people who worked on the film, "the conqueror" (possibly one of the worst films ever made) died of cancer? does anybody here remember that, or have links to the story?
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:50 PM
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7. There are a lot of Marshallese living in my community.
They are being paid compensation for the government "testing" nukes on them.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 07:27 AM
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9. Good Point. Thanks for posting.
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