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Karmageddon Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:52 AM
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Clinton:Debate More Important Than Party Unity (has she been reading DU?)
Clinton Says GOP Blindly Follows Bush
She Calls an Open Debate on the Iraq War More Important Than Party Unity

One day after suffering a pair of defeats on the Senate floor, Democratic leaders argued yesterday that their internal divisions over Iraq will help push the country toward a change in policy and accused Republicans of blindly following President Bush on a path that has been disastrous for the nation.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) said Democrats emerged from this week's Senate debate more united than critics contend around a policy aimed at forcing the new Iraqi government to take responsibility for suppressing the insurgency. Party unity is important, she said, but not as valuable as an open debate about how best to change course.

"We're not blindly united like the other side is, where they are like the three monkeys -- 'hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil,' " she told reporters after a speech to the Democratic group NDN. "They're not going to say anything negative about the president, the vice president, the secretary of defense or anybody else. I think that's irresponsible. It's negligent."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/23/AR2006062301490.html
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:53 AM
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1. As long as she's for the war, I can't stand by her. Traitor to our troops
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:29 AM
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6. It is one thing....
...to have a personal distaste for the lady and her history, and quite another to decouple yourself from a united front standing up, finally, to the warpublicans.

Mrs. Clinton IS on our side. And being that our side has to this point been so disorganized and powerless, it behooves us to wrap our arms around anyone who can help us gain the power necessary to eliminate the threat we face.

We have a common enemy, lets not waste our energies on beating up those who can help us.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:55 AM
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2. Hil, your pro-war stance is negligent, or is this the first squeaks of
your political wheel, turning in another direction?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:57 AM
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5. Great minds, babylon sister. Great minds....
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:55 AM
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3. Is she starting a progressive makeover...
Edited on Sat Jun-24-06 08:58 AM by marmar
Hillary Clinton isn't stupid, and I think she tends to move in whichever direction she senses the wind is blowing....But I agree, until she does a John Edwards and admits she screwed up on her war vote, liberals are going to hold her at arm's length.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:56 AM
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4. The problem with the Democrats is - what are we really doing in Iraq?
We have military all over the planet in oil rich countries. This has been going on for over 50 years. What is our gov'ts end plan for oil? If the plan is to have military might everywhere there is oil and take over those oil wells when we need it and to hell with the locals - then the Democrats won't allow a pull-out of Iraq either. If as Greg Palast has said - we're there to keep oil off the market to help * friends the oil companies make fortunes - then there is a chance of a pull-out
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:31 AM
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7. Somebody up there gets it
The GOP has a propaganda initiative out now that labels Democrats as un unified as a party. "Too indecisive to rule" the talking points say. Some in the party leadership reacted to the GOP talking points by trying to negotiate a statement everybody in the party could agree on.

Trying to get everybody to agree on something just starts a fight. Running from a GOP manufactured perception makes the party look weak.

I'm glad to see a Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Paul Begala stand up for who we really are. Diversity of opinion is something the Democrats should be proud of, not ashamed of. Its at the core of what Democrats as a party are.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 01:34 PM
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8. I agree. Debate makes for the best outcome. Not this "of one mind"
fascist policy planning that is Karl Rove & Cheney. That just gives War and political games. No policy to actually solve the nations issues.
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