Ward Churchill questions (to respond to a LTTE)

I'm going to respond to a LTTE in my local paper that compared Ward Churchill to Ann Coulter. My first point will be about the scale - I had never personally heard of Ward Churchill until Limbaugh & his ilk brought his name up a few years back... was Churchill that prominent before he made his controversial remarks, and I had just missed the boat on him? So, I was going to say that Coulter is a prominent Fox News analyst, talking head pundit on cable news and a best selling author. To compare Ward Churchill making a controversial remark to Ann Coulter is like comparing a junior high school actress tripping in the school play to Julia Roberts taking a header off stage & breaking her leg.

2nd, the LTTE writer claimed that nobody on the left disavowed Churchill's remarks. I suck at googling, but I'm sure many Democrats & progressives have disavowed his 9/11 remarks.

3rd, has anybody on the right seriously disavowed Coulter's remarks? I don't recall any Republican politicians, with maybe one or two from New York being exceptions.

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Buy the book - don't cost a bundle. Think I got mine on Amazon. That way you'll be able to draw your own conclusions. Personally I'd say it's got far far more going for it than against it.

While I'm sure Churchill has some good points, the comments that are out there known to most people are the ones regarding 9/11 and the Little Eichmanns, etc.

has subsequently acknowledged that by not explaining or elaborating on his reason for using the Eichmann analogy he created a problem. I suggested you get a copy to help you put the whole book into context. It lists out in chronological order the effects of USA overseas policy over the past few hundred years and the inevitablity of some form of pay back from any one of a high number of countries. In the case of 11th Sep 2001 it was/may have been Muslims but it could just as easily have been Chileans paying back for the tens of thousands who died at the hands of death squads as a result of 11th September 1973 - oddly enough he makes little mention of that.

I'm not supporting a situation here - just stating facts.

Coulter is liked by the right. So it isn't about finding one kook out of the whole other side, its about the whole other side liking a kook.

If he hadn't included the "little Eichmans" remark we probably would have never heard of him. That remark was scooped up by the RW and the character assasination insued with great vigour.

Please elaborate...

Why is the average employee in the WTC to blame for the sins of the corporate elite?

It wasn't just one sentence either. One reason he said trade center occupants deserved to die was that some speculated on stocks. Churchill is only popular on the fringe of the fringe.

I have read his writings and been familiar with his work for a good many years. Keep in mind that he is an academic, and one of his primary goals is to stimulate young people to think. And he has often said some things that the average citizen might find shocking.

Ward was never, so far as I know, a guest on the corporate media talk shows in the manner that Ms. Coulter has been. Although his books are by far better written and more accurate than Ms. Coulter's, one would most likely have to be a student in a college to encounter Ward's works. Other than that, his appeal has been largely to people from non-traditional Native American communities, and from progressive, even radical groups.

His remarks on 9-11, no matter if one agrees or disagrees with them, were not stated in the best manner. It reminded me of Malcolm X's rather unfortunate comment after Dallas. No matter if Malcolm had a valid point; he stated it in a manner that created negative responses.

Ward is a good man who is a minor player. Ann is a bad person who has been granted a level of responsibility that she is incapable of living up to.

Outside of some academic circles & non traditional native Americans, was Ward Churchill known to many? While I'm far from as well read as I'd like to be, I'm also not returning from being stranded on Gilligan's island for 16 years, and I had never heard of Churchill before.

Also - A few months back, a RW radio host here in CT had mentioned how Churchill had claimed to be a Native American, but really was not.

well-known.

Also, it is not for radio hosts to determine if Ward is "Indian" enough to meet some undefined standard. Non-issue for anyone to the left of Ms. Coulter.

Who is Ward Churchill again? My recommendation on the LTTE would be not even to bring up Ward Churchill. Just hammer Anne and keep bringing up her loathsome comments. Don't buy into this "moral equivalency" game.

Ann is a republican. Ward isn't a democrat.

Specifically mentioned Ward Churchill... it was one of those "librul" media pieces, as in "why such a big outcry over Ann Coulter's remarks in the media when Ward Churchill made (writer's words) even worse comments that were not denounced by the left."

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Coulter makes money by creating hate and division.

Churchill is about justice, and peace.

I've stepped in it once or twice myself, so I can give Churchill some leaway. Coulter hasn't just stepped in it, she wades around in it on a regular basis.

Churchill's goal is to create understanding, which leads to cooperation and peace.

Coulter wants to cloud any potential understanding.

Apples.

Oranges.

reading what he actually wrote and his comments.

http://www.politicalgateway.com/news/read.html?id=2739

of the two of them is wrothwhile.

There's too mmuch apples and oranges between them.

An argument against Churchill is that he's paid by the taxpayers, and therefore should be further scrutinized.

An argument against Coulter is that she is much more widely read, including in many online journals and regular newspapers.

I just don't think they're alike enough to be compared.

The original op-ed piece was lamenting the outcry from the "librul" media over Ann Coulter's remarks, yet said that "Why is it that when liberals make equally hateful comments, it barely gets a mention by the media and is overlooked, and even excused, by the liberal establishment?" The writer then went on to specifically cite Ward Churchill.