I love that the support for Bush is down, but

I am coming across quite a few people in my area who no longer support Bush or the Republicans, but rather than attempt to support Democrats, just say "they don't support any of them". My feelings on this are that they are so embarrassed with the "in your face" "you lost, get over it" that they can't stand to even come close to admitting their role in this debacle.
I actually got into a heated discussion with one former GUNG HO Bushican that feels that even though we don't abide by the Geneva Conventions, that everyone else should.
What kind of disconnect is this?
Will this hurt or help us in November?

Maybe when they're all alone and have to make the right decision, they can do what they can't admit to publically.

support for bush is way down cause people are catchin' on to his lyin' and Al Gore(the real Prez) is packin' 'em at the theaters!

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Its not Bush persay.

Its not Iraq. Its their ideology thats coming up short. Weve had six years of complete repub rule and nothing theyve promised has come to fruition. The hawks have been bitchslapped. The anti Abortionists have found out they were conned. The true conservatives were hijacked by the neocons and theyre extremely ashamed that they were bamboozled. The tax free rich folk diatribe came up short and created the largest deficit in history along with stagnant wages and barely enough employment to cover the population growth. Its all a failure .

I think they would say that shrub betrayed the ideology--he betrayed the movement. The conservative movement is like all movements in this respect, it can't exist in a "pure" form. Of course, they'll never admit it.

My feelings on this are that they are so embarrassed with the "in your face" "you lost, get over it" that they can't stand to even come close to admitting their role in this debacle.

I think that while that may certainly be the mode of operation for some, there is something else at work. When I hear people tell me that they used to support the repubs but don't support any of them, I tend to think it might just be that they are disenfranchised from the whole political arena. After all, Bush was the man they trusted after 9/11. Now that some of them are coming around and realizing what a farce it's all been and how their trust has been so thoroughly violated, they feel that they can't really trust any politician or party.

Just my .02.

I think people are getting fed up with Bush. They'll either vote Democrat or not vote. I'd prefer they vote for us because they think we will do a good job. But still, a vote is a vote, right? Any vote away from the Repubs is good. Just hope we have good primaries so that the people they vote in will be decent.

let those who love bushco dominate and reelect Bush puppets to Congress.

In the coming election the only way to try to get any change, or at least a halt in the current awful policies - is to vote against them. To not vote at all - is almost the same as voting for bushco and their puppets in congress - as it leaves all the voting power to others (esp to the crazy religious rightsters and the neoconshysters.)

Have to convince folks that at least for one election - if they are truley disgusted by the current regime - that they HAVE to vote against it. To not do so, is to condone the actions of the admin and congress - and to allow those who still "believe" in bushco to have a greater voice.

If they want to sit out in the future - fine. But unless they like the current direction - they need to act. The worst thing that can happen is "gridlock" - which means STOPPING bushco's direction and march towards bankrupting the US (morally as well as fiscally.)

Conservatives are frequently lumped together... In reality, they are not all the same...

1. The real conservatives out there want smaller government, reduced spending, secure borders, and a stronger and smarter military stand against nations like North Korea and Iran.
2. The neo-cons want big government, open borders, and nation-building.
3. Then the religious right are more concerned about domestic issues like abortion and gay marriage.

The reason the GOP did so well in 2004 was because Karl Rove was able to form a unity with these three types of conservatives. Over the past 2 years, this unity has fallen completely apart because Bush and the Senate seems to have abdonded the other two forms of conservatism. That's why his numbers dropped below 40%.

The people running the government right now are neo-cons. They are not real or true conservatives. They are some strange cross-breed of capitalism and fascism. They want to form a one-world capitalist empire.

The GOP may be going through a power struggle over the next couple election cycles. Republicans really don't seem to be agreeing on anything anymore. But I don't think this will help Democrats that much since Democrats can't seem to agree on anything either.